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Magog2112 
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1. Neil Pepper (Galahad) 2. Tom Hyatt (Echolyn) 3. Jonas Reingold (The Flower Kings) 4. Pete Trewavas (Marillion) 5. John Jowitt (IQ)
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Ray Bennett - Flash
Gustavo Montesano - Crucis Andre Bernardi - Eskaton Doug Nethercote - Windchase Marco Meduri - Jet Lag Michel Dion - Toubabou
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Mike Rutherford. Get 'Em Out By Friday looses half the excitement without that monster baseline.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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Posted: July 20 2019 at 15:07 |
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Forgot to mention Steve Rodby from Pat Metheny Group.
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I always thought Douglas Campbell "Dougie" Thomson of Supertramp was very underrated....Supertramp as a band doesn't seem to get many props on PA. They did some fine music, and Dougie was a major part of it.
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Posted: July 18 2019 at 19:05 |
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Tom Fowler - Frank Zappa
Mario Mutis - Los Jaivas
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Now there's a bassist who does deserve more recognition. I saw Arena live in '98 and John tore it up.
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I concur.
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Yes...I have always liked his work with PT. Good call.... I also will say John Jowitt..who is not longer with IQ.
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I think that there are a lot of underrated bassist but my top four is:
Ray Shulman - Gentle Giant Gustavo Montesano - Crucis Jose Luis Fernandez - La maquina de hacer pαjaros Pedro Aznar - Seru Giran I deeply recommend those bands if you haven΄t heard of them |
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I'm not a fan of the term "underrated" and top something lists (because for me the order and contents change every day) of any kind but to me Jσzef Skrzek's bass playing deserves more recognition. He's mostly associated with keys but that guy was also a ripping bass player.
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Anyone mention Mick Karn yet? |
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Colin Henry of Porcupine Tree does also seem to lack some prise, hes playing is cool and hes tone is solid as concrete.
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I don't know what it is ... and I got a couple of his solo albums, and they are also rather nice and tasteful, and I have yet to find something of his that is "conventional" that does not stand up above everyone else.
He is excellent, and is probably the main reason why the Steven Wilson tour went so well ... I doubt that any other conventional bass player would have added to much to Steven's ideas, who has become well known for his megalomania ... and thinking that he is the musician and everyone else plays for him! It's amazing that he has learned the Stick and its use so well, and added a touch to SW's work that was not there before, not that Colin did not have that touch ... he had a very different touch for PT ... but it was not exactly a "new touch" as much as it was a well defined moment to make the song or piece of music even better. In the special on the tube, Nick explains to SW ... let me do this, and if you don't like it we can go back to the other way ... and based on what we heard in concert and on the album, it was obvious that Nick could color SW's music even more ... and some credit should be given to SW at that moment for realizing how good someone can be ... you gotta let them add to what you have, sometimes ... and helps define your work even better ... because you know that person "is there!".
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Chopper ... I forgot the emoticons ... it was a joke that all that stuff couldn't possibly be "progressive". The album is far out ... and really neat, and if you are doing a radio type show, there are many songs that can be played ... really nice album!
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Percy, always Percy.
Among those who crashed and burned in their youth I am always blown away when I hear the contributions of Doug Rauch (Santana et al.) Danny Thompson and Victoria are in a league all their own. I love Moshkito's suggestion of David Darling. Nicky Beggs is astonishing; I love when a bass can lead or establish and hold the melody. Of the modern prog bassists I have to admit to being quite fond of the work Antoine Fafard has been doing.
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I don't really think he can be classified as "underrated".
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I forgot Danny Thompson. Love his playing on standup bass.
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What does that mean?
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AND, of course, it takes one to know one, right? My notes and ideas have come, largely from theater, film and the spoken arts. Almost all musicians, only met one that didn't fit the idea, are 100% afraid of experimentation, and specially exercises that can lead to experimentation that would help create something new
and this was, for a long time, the thrust of the ECM label, that got so many folks comfortable with each other
you lock them up in a white room and leave them alone
maybe with some coffee
rotgut for you probably! Nowadays, a description of an exercise that works wonders with actors
is not, SUPPOSEDLY, any good for a musician
easy to see why
you (likely) can not play beyond the notes and chords that you are familiar with
and
what chord is that in that the guitarist is doing, kind of thing, when so much of the music in the 60's, including jazz was almost about being opposite that as far as possible
but today, we're all supposed to be conformists, just the way you wrote them! I'm probably the quietest and humblest person you ever could meet for a cup of tea
but I know what I SEE, and I know what I have experienced in my life with actors, on stage and with some musicians, and I study the history of a lot of music
not just your notes and chords
there are vastly different schools out there that do not follow the "notes and chords" concept that easy
witness the Berlin School that gave rise to so much of the synthesizer folks and music
you probably have no idea how many folks said it wasn't music, up to a reviewer calling TD "washing machine music"
and if you are so stuck up as to not even know the difference between a washing machine and music (well --- it does have music that can be used in krautrock, you know?)
then you are an idiot and are allowing another idiot to rant stupidly. I'm merely defending the "experimentalists", because too many musicians dismiss them and think they are stupid because it all has to have notes and chords! You don't like that, because you have no "control", and would have a hard time defining what to play next! You want it easy as pie
challenging you is not possible
you have gotten lazy in your older days!
I never claimed to be an expert on anything
and your comment is a perfect example, of how you don't like folks to challenge your status quo! My experience, is not limited to having listens
but almost all your professors learned music the same way
but they know "more" than you do, of course! My experience is related to something that you could not understand
and think that your stage experience is all there is to life
stage experience is the same, be it film, theater or music
the discipline is needed to help make it better
the real issue is that rock and jazz music, do not .. make use of a "director" to help formulate the music, and musicians are in love with the easy stuff they can get stuck on. Have you heard the last 10 pieces of music to find the same drum beat and style? That's listening to you, not just counting! My status quo is "OPEN" and has been from day one, otherwise things like this and that and THIRD EAR BAND and other odd balls, would never make it to my ears
just an odd example, since no one listens to it, anyway! My favorite moment in "listening", believe it or not, was in 1972 when my roommate played me something that made me sick, and I had to go to the bathroom
and when I came back, he said
sit down
let's try this again
and it was fine. Since that day, there has never been a single piece of music that has undone me
or surprised me
and I had a very large collection of all the old electronic stuff that came from movies, all the way back to FORBIDDEN PLANET. That piece of music was TD's Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares!
You are sooooooo out of line
you have no idea
it has nothing to do with the "riff" and what it sounds like
has to do with folks thinking that one riff makes a song
and nothing else
the next time you mis-represent your comments, kindly take them to the cleaners first
you are not reading a single word of what I have written
that's OK
I'm a writer anyway
you have no idea what that means, I don't think! And how much music people know and study. One riff does not define Mozart or Beethoven
so now, in the 21st century all music has to have a riff so we know that Stravinsky was wrong in not having any riffs in his music! I think your "logic" needs some studying! |
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