Is it time for Brutal Prog as a new sub? - Progressive Rock Music Forum

"Brutal" prog?? Do you have to hit yourself over the head with a blunt object when you listen to it? What a silly sounding genre name.

NotAProghead wrote:

What's the use of inventing artificial genres? And where we find brutal men to make a Brutal Team? Smile

All genres are invented and artificial. But I agree there's no need for this so called genre.

Like eclectic - brutal isn't a genre. Its possibly an additional descriptor. "Yeah they are avant but brutal". Ask for descriptors instead of even more silly genre-inventions.

I believe metal was split because it was just too large and unwieldy. Someone from the prog metal team can correct me if my memory is a failure. (It might have had something to do with all the extreme metal bands that were added that are quite a bit different from dream theater and the traditional prog metal stuff, as well.)

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Man With Hat wrote:

I don't see this as necessary, since the RIO/Avant page mentions brutal prog and anything associated with the genre is placed there. Having brutal be a sub of the Avant sub just makes the most sense to me, as antying I''ve heard that gets tagged as brutal prog is in the avant field.

You wouldn't be wrong if you called it avant, but you also wouldn't be wrong if you called it math rock. It carries the defining characteristics of both, but doesn't much sound like the other bands in those categories. I think if you are looking for brutal prog bands, it would help to have a tag for it, but, on the other hand, RYM is many steps ahead of PA in that regard. I'm not sure how PA could compete.

No doubt RE: math rock. But at least from what I know of math rock, these bands are certainly much 'uglier' and out, which I would attribute to the avant influence.

But then again, there is probably a lot of overlap between the avant-rock and math-rock worlds, at least theoretically.

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I don't see this as necessary, since the RIO/Avant page mentions brutal prog and anything associated with the genre is placed there. Having brutal be a sub of the Avant sub just makes the most sense to me, as antying I''ve heard that gets tagged as brutal prog is in the avant field.

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As long as you don't call my subgenre Wussy Prog, I'm okay with it.

historian9 wrote:

Since it's not a suggestion of a specific band I moved the topic here in 'Help Us Improve The Site' where I can see a thread like this being opened.

The answer to the question of the topic at hand is a no though, I'm not going by merits or familiarity with it or anything, adding a new genre seems to be another thing that isn't possible of doing without M@X. Since he barely notices some other more serious issues I doubt he's gonna jump on this one.

Well he barely visits MMA either but we still got several new subs added last year. Just throw it on the list. I'm just putting it up for discussion in case it is ever possible to request such a thing. And curious as to what everyone else thinks.

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Since it's not a suggestion of a specific band I moved the topic here in 'Help Us Improve The Site' where I can see a thread like this being opened.

The answer to the question of the topic at hand is a no though, I'm not going by merits or familiarity with it or anything, adding a new genre seems to be another thing that isn't possible of doing without M@X. Since he barely notices some other more serious issues I doubt he's gonna jump on this one.

Why not? Jazz Music Archives and Metal Music Archives have many more subgenres and (in the case of MMA anyway) many fewer titles.