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    Posted: June 08 2019 at 10:13
Friede and I just watched the second match of the women's soccer world championship, Germany vs. China (Germany won 1-0). the Chinese women had quite a robust style of play; there were a lot of fouls, sometimes real brutal ones, by the Chinese.

after one of these fouls one of the German players said something to one of the Chinese women, and this was shown in slow motion. though there was no sound to that scene it was clear what the German player said (at least for anybody who speaks German well). she said: "willst du mich verarschen"?

this phrase is hard to translate because there are many meanings to it which all come through at the same time in German. literally the phrase means "are you trying to arse me?"; the meanings that are in there are "are you trying to make a fool out of me?", "are you trying to deceive me?" or "are you f**king around with me?".  Friede and I really had to laugh when we saw that slow motion.

the commentators in the studio made a few remarks about that scene after the game too, including quoting the phrase; it really was obvious what she had said. the phrase is very colloquial and generally only used when you are really pissed off at someone


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Cheering for Norway! 
 
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get out of our way
Because today is our day,
We are Norway, We are Norway
We got Leprous, we got Wobbler
we play world class women's soccer!


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Hi,

Should be an interesting series of games, and we will know a bit more after the USA plays, tomorrow I think ... Brazil is today and many articles are already saying that the Brazilians are falling apart and that their team will end as Marta leaves and retires.

I think that Sweden is dangerous, specially with their coach that previously ran the American team, and Germany is also always a problem, and I would not rule out China, although they have not been the power that they used to be.

I'm thinking that we will know more, and better after a game or two ... and see where the surprises lie.
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Good win for England yesterday, although by all accounts not a championship winning performance overall. I don't know if the implication there, by those commentating was "It's only Scotland, after all" I hope not, but then I don't know enough about football to comment further.

The standard, to me, looked high throughout.

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Was rooting for Scotland.  Next time.

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^ Ditto. The penalty decision awarded against them was ridiculously harsh. (Yes, the defender's arm was away from the side of her body but no-one can adopt the pogo starting position to block a cross ffs) Quite a few contenders on that pitch for man of the match...Smile
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Sad news for the German team: Their top-player Dzsenifer Marozsan, one of the very best female soccer players in the world, broke the middle toe of her left foot in the beginning of Germany's match against China. She played until the end, but this serious injury explains why she was not as good as usual in this match. it is highly unlikely, nigh impossible, that she will be able to play in the rest of the tournament.

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Kudos to the US-team for claiming payment equal to their male counterparts. Considering the fact that, being the current world champions, they are obviously the better team, they more than deserve that.

Equal payment for women is a problem in all areas of occupation, not just in sport. The problem is that it is mostly men who decide about these payments.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Sad news for the German team: Their top-player Dzsenifer Marozsan, one of the very best female soccer players in the world, broke the middle toe of her left foot in the beginning of Germany's match against China. She played until the end, but this serious injury explains why she was not as good as usual in this match. it is highly unlikely, nigh impossible, that she will be able to play in the rest of the tournament.

I've broken toes in karate and they are extremely painful, but very recoverable.   She should be fine next season.

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Holy sh*t, the US women beat Thailand 13-0, setting a new record for a female world championship match. The previous record was held by Germany with 11-0 against Argentina in 2007.


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I am always torn between 2 camps for such world cups. one half of me routes for the USA, my former home country, the other half roots for Germany


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I only watched the First Half, but I'm not surprised that it ended 13-0...
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

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Equal payment for women is a problem in all areas of occupation, not just in sport. The problem is that it is mostly men who decide about these payments.

I sympathize and believe that these women should get paid a lot more ... and in fact, players like the Men's National Team (in America), would have to donate 20% of their salaries to the women, for their low ranking and absolutely ridiculous and lousy play in the past 3 to 4 years!

I now think the USWNT can bet the men 5-3, or 5-2 ... because at the very least, the women can pass the ball and shoot ... the men, it feels like the old days in Victorian England ... the men leave the room to go out and have their smokes! And ignore the women until they can get laid, of course!

The whole thing is sick ... and the US Women deserve more ... their record speaks for itself, as it does the number of magnificent players ... not to mention others from around the world ... that also deserve more than just a kick in the butt ... how about the girl from Norway was it? (... saddest thing I have ever seen, and their media don't give a crap ... guess who runs the media!)
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

I only watched the First Half, but I'm not surprised that it ended 13-0...

The real scary thing is seeing in the first 10 minutes, the US had like 6 or 7 shots on Thailand ... and you knew this game was gonna get busted silly!

I'm not sure there is any team right now, that wants to come anywhere near the American team.
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The overall standard of play has been very impressive but there are two areas where the ladies have much to learn:
1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area)
2 - Apart a very elite core of players, they don't set their bodies correctly before shooting i.e. they don't place their weight over the ball but behind it which leads to lots of shots being tantamount to scooped 'chips' that usually fly too high
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

The overall standard of play has been very impressive but there are two areas where the ladies have much to learn:
1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area)
2 - Apart a very elite core of players, they don't set their bodies correctly before shooting i.e. they don't place their weight over the ball but behind it which leads to lots of shots being tantamount to scooped 'chips' that usually fly too high
 


 The Dallas boys ( under 15 years old) team beat Team USA 5-2.    Girls just wanna have fun.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4389760/USA-women-s-team-suffer-5-2-loss-FC-Dallas-U-15-boys.html

  
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

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1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area) 
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You have to watch the USA/Chile game for seeing one of the most amazing goalkeeping exhibitions EVER.

The score might have been about 6-0 were it not for her, and to the point where at least one American player was not going to get through ... period. Quite insane, and I think that many folks hope to ever have one game like that, let alone do it on the world's biggest stage.

Chile actually played well, despite being under pressure all game long and to come out with that score is a bit of ... you know ... one of those poetic justice kinds of thing ... but they could not move forward and their midfield was apparently more set on defending than they were on moving the ball forward.
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Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

The overall standard of play has been very impressive but there are two areas where the ladies have much to learn:
1 - The goalkeeping is awful to the point of slapstick, notwithstanding there are some excellent reflex shot stoppers (Argentina's Vanina Correa aside, who is superb and also commands her penalty area)
2 - Apart a very elite core of players, they don't set their bodies correctly before shooting i.e. they don't place their weight over the ball but behind it which leads to lots of shots being tantamount to scooped 'chips' that usually fly too high

While it has to be admitted that there is some truly abysmal female goal keeping there have been some very remarkable exceptions. One is former German goalkeeper Nadine Angerer who not only did not concede a single goal in the 2007 world championships (this included saving a penalty shot by the legendary Brazilian player Marta in the finals), she was also named female European soccer player of the year by the UEFA and female world soccer player of the year by the FIFA that same year. No other goalkeeper, male or female, was ever given that award (of course for their sex respectively).


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