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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6731 |
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This^ I can agree with. Frustrated populations desperate to push Globalism back. Giant corporations and billionaires would love one world government. Three classes of people- Rich, Poor slaves, and Police State to punish poor slaves. No more middle class. |
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10672 |
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Yet you voted for trump, the elite corporate billionaire politician who admires fascist dictators like Putin and Kim Jong. if I can think of one politician who leans towards total government control (shut down the press, punish those who protest), trump would be the one. I didn't vote for Shillary either. Edited by Easy Money - December 04 2018 at 10:30 |
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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1636 |
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This isn’t always true. |
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6731 |
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Again, no I did not vote for Trump. I didn't believe he would keep his promises. Such as lowering middle class taxes and not starting wars. I was wrong. Do you not remember that a little over a year ago, That Trump was threatening Kim Jong? Trump applied such massive sanctions on North Korea that China couldn't ship coal to North Korea. Why do you think North Korea is getting rid of it's Nukes? Obama sent more journalist's to jail than any president ever. How many journalists has Trump sent to jail?
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10672 |
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^ You do realize you are the only person in this thread that resorts to using insults. (The above insults were edited out after I posted this, that's an improvement I suppose)
The adults were having an intelligent conversation about taxes before you came back. Remember your promise to leave if asked, what happened to that promise? Edited by Easy Money - December 04 2018 at 20:25 |
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52416 |
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I don't have any doubt that the luxury taxes had an impact on the specific industries they targeted, and sadly, jobs were lost because of this. I personally don't believe they are an effective way of raising revenue and do more harm than good. But I don't believe they had the impact on the overall economy that I think you are suggesting (correct me if I am wrong). See for example: https://www.gao.gov/assets/220/215770.pdf And page 15 of this CRS report: https://newtax.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/federal-excise-taxes-lowry.pdf (for this one I couldn't find the 1992 CRS report by Zimmerman online mentioned in the footnote)
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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
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IVNORD ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 13 2006 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 1191 |
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You're right I shouldn't say that. I should have said "tax cuts ultimately produce budget deficits." That's exactly what happened with the cuts Reagan implemented. In a booming economy tax cuts may produce a budget surplus but when the economy turns it quickly becomes a deficit. That's what happened with Bush and that's why he had to abandon his promise. And of course, the profligacy of the welfare state makes any revenue surplus disappear even faster than they would otherwise.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52416 |
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I agree with everything you have said here.
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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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npjnpj ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
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I just saw an interview with Amy Klobuchar, who is apparently going to run in 2020 as a democratic presidential candidate. She's never been on my radar before, but judging by that interview, I find it hard to imagine anyone with less charisma. Is my impression wrong?
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rogerthat ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
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From the outside, I find Biden and Sanders the best bets. If Democrats don't nominate a tough, salt of the earth candidate, they won't swing the swing states. A smart, dynamic, progressive, preferably poc or non cisgender male candidate may appeal to NY and Cal but here's where they're playing it wrong. You could nominate a dead dodo to run as the Democratic candidate and NY and Cal will still turn for it. But you need somebody to win the Midwest states. Obama won states like NC, Ohio, Florida. What realistic plan do the Democrats have to replicate that? Mid terms are over so they better start thinking about it. |
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6048 |
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I'm in agreement with you re Biden and Sanders. I have heard around that some people are concerned about their ages, however. And you're right, NY and CA are in anyway, Dems need super strong candidates and now is the time.... Added later....another thing, just like age, it shouldn't matter, but they might be a hard sell in the midwest, being Catholic and Jewish. None of that matters to me, policy, ability, and a more progressive-leaning-than-not stance does.... Edited by Snicolette - December 09 2018 at 12:41 |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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I think we have now crossed over.. officially into the Nixonian zone... even FAUX is sounding the alarm
our President is a crook and is going down.. not for a white lie or committing perjury about an affair (a personal matter).. but actually committing felonies and election fraud I nearly spilled my beer when I saw this... this probably marks the moment the Toddler in Chief has jumped the shark now the question is... can the Democrats NOT impeach him even though the smart move is to let a fatally wounded politically President face the voters in 2020... and the bigger question.. what will Senate Republican do... knowing this might be the last chance they have save their party. Much as Republicans did in the 70's.. can they do it now in these hyperpartisan times? We shall see.. it is looking more likely like we will... this is history we are living .. thanks again Trump voter.. you know how to pick a winner... Edited by micky - December 12 2018 at 18:21 |
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6048 |
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Pretty astonishing when that FAUX is reporting thusly....
Also gotta say I loved seeing Pelosi not back down in that meeting.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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yeah... let's see if Judge Nappy still has a gig tomorrow.. FAUX gets its ratings and money not by telling its listeners what they need to hear.. but what they have wanted to hear.
yeah wasn't that some sh*t yesterday... again.. god bless Trump voter. Prior to 2016 you could have never dreamed this stuff up... though I did love the inside reports that Trump lost his sh*t immediately after that televised fiasco... threw a major tantrum and threw a bunch of folders of briefings and stuff all over his office. He knew Chuck and Nancy played him and made him look the fool and the petulant child we all know him to be. That really was a reminder of what I said some pages back.. there is no politician in D.C. more skilled or savvy than Nancy Pelosi.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6048 |
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Yes, re Pelosi. She proved her mettle there, not that she should have had to....
Not only did he prove it in that meeting, but underlined it with he behaviour afterwards. I loved Pelosi's remarks afterwards...and Schumerwas great also in the meeting.
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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yep.. I read she knew that was coming.. and was prepared for the hyper 'for the cameras' aggrssive Trump..
but let us not forget the silent one of these days.. who casts a shadow over all of this. priceless hahhaha ![]() And still reason one why I don't think Trump will be impeached... he scares the HELL out of most rational and sane people.. to say nothing of Democrats. Trump is an idiot and is not an ideologue.. he only cares about himself. Pence is one of those true believers.. and is no idiot. Thus far more dangerous than Trump could ever be to our domestic values. questions are already being asked.... would he pardon Trump if Trump was impeached.. or resigned.. unlike Ford.. and likely directly because of Ford because unlike Ford.. Pence has strong ambitions... I don't think he would since it would be (like it was for Ford) a death sentence to win election in his own right as President.. which means.. we may or not see our first conviction by the Senate of a sitting President (I really don't think the will.. because THEY will still have to face voters even after Trump is gone) but we will most certainly see our first President become a convicted felon and be put in jail when the Feds are done with him after he is no longer President.
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Snicolette ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2018 Location: OR Status: Offline Points: 6048 |
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Such a bucking fastard. Pence too.
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"Into every rain, a little life must fall." ~Tom Rapp
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 52416 |
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It wouldn't surprise me if this was just the tip of the iceberg.
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i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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You mean these people hate Trump? Why? ;)
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