Albums that you find very generic and boring |
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M27Barney
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Tom Ozric
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It doesn’t get more generic, bland, boring...... than Bruce Hornsby - his mundane plinky-plonky piano melodies are sooo pedestrian it makes me puke.
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This is a discussion board. Learning to deal with people that can explain (which is asked for in the op) why they strongly dislike something you may love... is good for you, its healthy and something we need to be exposed to as part of becoming an adult person. You can either just accept it - because why should you care if someone doesn't like some Marillion-album you treasure or whatever. Alternatively-or ideally you can try and come up with better arguments than the "negative person" has. Both reactions is better than having problems with other opinions than your own. Positivity is overrated - uncensored honesty rules. If an honest opinion comes off as unnessecarily mean spirited, too personal or plain stupid your opposer has "lost the debate" in everyone elses eyes anyway. However if everyone just writes some album title and leaves, its about as worthless as writing the title of your favorite album. |
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Cristi
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I love this album, I wouldn't use a world like "gaga" though. The album has a great flow, I find the playing tight, Fish's vocal performance great, good, emotional lyrics, nice guitar work from Rothery.
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M27Barney
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Probably every CD/Vinyl that Micky owns... |
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Squonk19
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Hmm....have to say I'm also struggling with what this thread has to offer, other than an excuse for people to Sl*g off any genre, band, musician, or even PA member who's tastes dare conflict with their own. I could name a whole host of albums, bands or genres that I don't particularly find to my taste - but I would never criticise those tastes as if I was the arbiter of a true prog vision. My tastes are probably more mainstream, melodic, nostalgic, populist, and UK-centric than most - but hey.... ain't that a bitch! When did PA become a forum when newbies were scared of posting for fear of being mocked for their tastes or choices. I'm too old to worry about it or give a sh*t, but don't let PA become a shark-fest for negativity when prog has so much to celebrate. More positivity, guys! We are all individuals........(I'm not! ) |
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jamesbaldwin
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Generic and boring are a lot of albums after Seventies by groups which
made the history of progressive like Genesis and Yes (and partially King Crimson)... and many others groups less important... But if I think of a quite generic and boring album in the middle of progressive era (1969-76) which enjoys great reputation, in my mind comes the name of Music in Glass House by Gentle Giant Edited by jamesbaldwin - November 25 2018 at 15:48 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Well, those who want prog that is super intense all the time probably won't like Camel. They are often a bit on the mellow side. I think it all boils down to taste. Were there bands with better musicians and compositions than Camel? Probably if complexity and virtuoso musicianship is what you are looking for. You could say the same about Pink Floyd though since they maybe weren't the absolute best musicians with the most intense or complex music either. So yeah, don't listen to Camel then. Go put on your Magma, Present or Mahavishnu albums. :P
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verslibre
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That album's so overrated, it's not funny. I think Fugazi and especially Clutching At Straws are far and away the better albums. I'm not sure what it is about Misplaced that has so many Maril-fans gaga.
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verslibre
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It's not about Camel worship, per se, it's about the random comparisons to certain politicians' appendages. LOL! Like I said, some albums, like Harbour Of Tears, and the oft-revered The Snow Goose, just do not click with me. I ditched my copies many moons ago. I only know of one real "Camel nut," and that's my buddy Dave. The guy rates them above most of their contemporaries. It's got more to do with Latimer worship than anything, methinks, haha.
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micky
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well not just that darling... it is as much the many hundreds.. perhaps thousands.. however they have been prog albums I've heard over the years which I do directly compared those (or any band I critique) to. Nice albums.. better than some.. not so others... but no.. to these ears there is nothing special about them thus a 4th division rank.. is actually being quite generous
For it does completely overstate their body of work, their influence on the genre, and any kind of influence they have on any bands which are the kind of exact things.. not being popular.. that get you promoted to the upper divisions.
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We have all of those albums, as well as Breathless and A Live Record. I actually play them relatively often, so Micky is quite familiar with them. Personally speaking, I find Camel a very pleasant listen, but not much more than that. Though I wouldn't be so harsh as to call them 4th-tier, the worship they seem to receive from many prog fans has always baffled be a bit. To each his/her own. I suppose. Anyway, a highly rated album that has always bored me to tears is Marillion's Misplaced Childhood. I have also never managed to "get" Foxtrot, though I don't think it is generic in the least (whatever this means).
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verslibre
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"Tough crowd"? Haha, hardly. You just wrote thrice as many sentences explaining why you think Camel sucks. I just said "harsh." Hey, wait a sec...tough crowd! Maybe you need to give them another whirl. They certainly kick Floyd's ass in the keyboards & drums dept.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion but just wondering if you have actually heard their first five or so albums especially mirage, snowgoose and moonmadness? Or maybe you just don't care for symph prog in general. I honestly can't see anyone who is a symph fan not liking them at least to some degree.
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Cristi
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three bands mentioned here I love - Rush, Enchant and Camel. To say Rush are generic is ridiculous if you ask me.
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Then turn it around. I used the OP as an opportunity to say a lot of positive things about Rush in response to his negative assessment. I could have done the same thing with Camel, who I also love.
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Tom Ozric
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I I find many Uriah Heep albums generic, particularly after Return To Fantasy.
Also some Fusion things - various (not all) albums by Weather Report and Jean-Luc Ponty are rather hum-drum affairs that lose my interest quickly. |
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Anything by Starcastle, but that's saying very little.
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