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micky 
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 Posted: November 16 2018 at 17:03 |
commander in crap? hahaha.. I like that almost as my Toddler in Chief moniker.
I think all but the most militant of Democrat think impeachment is a completely bad idea. As I have long said.. Trump has a greater chance of being impeached by the Republicans in order to try save what is left of their party.. however now that they have lost the House I don't see that happening for there is no chance in hell Democratic leadership impeaches him.. no good comes out of it. Any substantial wrongdoing that might be found my Mueller will likely be the final nail in any chance he to win in 2020.. probably leaving Trump with about 35-40% support.. which means that cute map I just posted is likely to very close to what 2020 might actually look like... but more importantly.... and I'll say it again.. the only thing more scary than losing 2020 are these 4 words
President Michael Richard Pence.
he is truly dangerous in a way Trump's idiocy, bumbling and lack of a genunie political ideology are not..
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:58 |
 Easy Money wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
I don't see an impeachment either, so far there's much less hard evidence than in Watergate (recordings, testimonies, witnesses). Further, if real evidence establishes that Trump or staff privately made illegitimate political deals with foreigners, it would've been before the election. Whereas Nixon did his dirty work while in the WH. So legally here there may not be much of a case. The question will be how it looks, the politics of it, the optics if you will: is pre-election political subversion enough of a turnoff to his supporters, and will that even matter in 2020 or will his moderate supporters be his deathknell? |
Unless something really major turns up, I think impeachment is a bad idea, and the dems would be foolish to push too soon for something like that. |
Yep, no national stomach for it, and better to just get him out in '20.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:56 |
Watch these become collectable like BillyBeer or something. God forbid I actually use it, I think I may put it on a pedestal, a great monument to an appalling moment in history.
I can remember people wearing full Nixon head-masks being chased with sticks in Dolores Park round 'bout 1970.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Easy Money
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:52 |
Atavachron wrote:
I don't see an impeachment either, so far there's much less hard evidence than in Watergate (recordings, testimonies, witnesses). Further, if real evidence establishes that Trump or staff privately made illegitimate political deals with foreigners, it would've been before the election. Whereas Nixon did his dirty work while in the WH. So legally here there may not be much of a case. The question will be how it looks, the politics of it, the optics if you will: is pre-election political subversion enough of a turnoff to his supporters, and will that even matter in 2020 or will his moderate supporters be his deathknell?
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Unless something really major turns up, I think impeachment is a bad idea, and the dems would be foolish to push too soon for something like that.
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:48 |
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* or get a finder's fee from the seller... I'll put in a good word for you when I place my order.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:47 |
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I guess i should buy stocks in that one! LOL
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:44 |
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So apparently those are handmade by someone and there's a big backlog-- just ordered one
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awesome!!! isn't capitalism great... I have to check with the boss.. but i want to order 4.. one for each our thrones here.. and a couple for raff's family... hey.. .darling.. how about that guy (extended family but still....) who had the Mussolini portrait up that freaked me out last year watching over me as i ate that sumptuous feast? Think he would want one!!!
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:41 |
shifting gears from Trump and the past.. to the future... hate to say i was right but it didn't take long to see i was. Though in all honesty.. you only had to be paying attention to see it coming from a mile away.
orientation week.. pfff... that civil war between progressive and centrist/establishment in the Democratic party isn't even waiting till January to get started.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:38 |
So apparently those are handmade by someone and there's a big backlog-- just ordered one
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:38 |
^ oh hell yeah.. I so want one of those.. well several....several more to take to Italy as xmas gifts for Raff's family.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:28 |
^ Oh I gotta get me one of those ... heck I gotta get several for Xmas gifts, great stocking stuffer!
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:22 |
There needs to be a whole line for all billionaires and politiicans! This is exactly what i think of ALL those scumbag MFs!
Edited by siLLy puPPy - November 16 2018 at 16:25
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:02 |
no it won't matter David. As I showed in my presidential preview... Trump is pretty much screwed unless Hillary runs again hahah.. and even then to be honest.. due to losing the educated, surbanites, and especially women since that election. .she probably would beat him. As I so impolititely noted. Trump has as much chance of winning in 2020 as I do becoming a famous porn star
the worst that might happen... for I agree.. Trump does not get impeached. He is already politically gutshot even before Mueller sticks a knife into him. He is dead meat in 2020.. and Pence scares the f**k out of anyone who doesn't swing a bible with authority at the heads of the non self rightious and hypocritical hahah
how would a Mick the Big Dick v. Trump found by Mueller of sacrificing young Hispanic virgins to protect our borders... election play out here...
as I noted in my preview.. some states will stay red even if ol Adolf were on the ticket. they will stay red regardless of whatever Mueller finds. He has his support and nothing.. not even everything he did and all that was suspected PRiOR to the election is going to stop the ignorant and racist and bigoted.. and bible toting from supporting him.
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IVNORD
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 16:00 |
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Yes! The 1st Amendment is still intact and working just fine. Sorry Donald. |
Trump wasn't found in violation of the 1st Amendment. Acosta has/had the freedom to speak all he wants. He just behaved as a jackass.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 15:52 |
I don't see an impeachment either, so far there's much less hard evidence than in Watergate (recordings, testimonies, witnesses). Further, if real evidence establishes that Trump or staff privately made illegitimate political deals with foreigners, it would've been before the election. Whereas Nixon did his dirty work while in the WH. So legally here there may not be much of a case. The question will be how it looks, the politics of it, the optics if you will: is pre-election political subversion enough of a turnoff to his supporters, and will that even matter in 2020 or will his moderate supporters be his deathknell?
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 15:15 |
I remember talking about this some time back David. Unlike Nixon.. he can and will survive pretty much anything Mueller throws at him.. for he has been attacked Mueller and his credibility (especially indirectly through those he had working for him for over a year) and unlike Nixon and old school Republicans that were Americans first.. not 'go my team and f**k the other'.. his supporters are simply buying what he has been selling that this was a witch hunt and 'fake news' created by all that deep state bulssh*t.
the offensive started early.. for as most rational people suspected.. and pardon the pun.. where there is smoke.. there almost certainly is fire. If Trump didn't have something to hide... really hide... well then.. he sure as hell has done nothing or remotely acted like he hasn't. He has long known Mueller was a direct threat not just to his Presidency.. but something even more important to him.. his brand name. He started early on sowing the seeds of doubt among his supporters about Mueller and this investigation.. for he knew what he had to hide of course.. and correctly assumed Mueller would find it.
unlike Nixon though .only 60% of this country will really care what Mueller finds... it will be more than enough to see him out in 2020.. but not enough to see his term interrrupted either by impeachment or the 25th Amendment.
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 15:04 |
True. I meant it might give Mueller a bit more cred, and a bit more armor.
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 14:59 |
^ Trump is no Republican.... then again Republicans today are not Republicans.. what they have become.. who knows.. call it the American 'white first rich second and first f**k everyone else' Neo-fascist authoritarian party.. but whatever it is.. it is not the Republican Party of a mere decade or two ago
more importantly... Mueller is first and foremost an American where American values and our laws matter. Something Trump voter sort of forgot about.. that .. umm.. should have trumped partisan politics or personal political identification. Who cares if the man was unqualified or unfit.. he was a 'republican' and that was all mattered.
Edited by micky - November 16 2018 at 15:00
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 14:48 |
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^ And he's a Republican, too. Good stuff.
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micky
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Posted: November 16 2018 at 14:08 |
^ indeed... nothing like Trump tantrum rebuked... and word is the reason on top of the French PR disaster and of course the midterms.... is he knows Mueller is about to go medieval on his ass.
Had wondered if that was going to hit today.. suppose he is waiting for Trump to get his answers back to him before dropping that bomb on everyone. Suppose next week... while Mueller has been quiet for the last few months oh he has been a busy beaver.
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