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Oh yes, forgot. I may build an angled base to stick all this rubbish on. With more modules in, of course. I'm trying to build the complete set. 

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Well, here's two thirds of the synth. 

There's another cabinet (same size as the left one) out of shot. The left and right cabinets are part of a multi sequencer section with eight sequencers driving six oscillators. That's all effectively done. These Tangerine Dream away. The central cabinet (work in progress) has eight oscillators and will soon have a master sequencer onboard which clocks the others. Still got to build the case and power supplies for that. 

Coming along. 



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2018 at 11:31
^How much would it cost to ship that to my place in the States? LOL!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Davesax1965 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2018 at 06:37
Oh dear, it's 220v. ;-)))))

Truth be told, I am actually thinking of selling it !! Then I can build another one. ;-)))) This probably explains why I've hardly recorded anything in two years, been too busy with a soldering iron. At some stage, I'll do a gig with it, mainly for my own amusement, to be honest. 

Doing some Eurorack designs at the moment, been messing about with some stuff in Eagle - electronic design software. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote flyingveepixie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2018 at 07:05
Looks awesome.  You must have an amazing understanding and knowledge of electronics to build this kit.  I have a passing interest but wouldn't know where to begin...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Davesax1965 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2018 at 09:41
Thanks, but !!! No, I'm no expert !!! You should have seen one of my designs from yesterday, if I'd actually not checked it before building it, it'd have caught fire when I switched it on. ;-)))))

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote flyingveepixie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2018 at 10:18
LOL.   Still looks bloody amazing though and the kind of thing I'd love to get my hands on for a little play around with...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Davesax1965 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2018 at 06:14
Alas, Kenny, it's no longer man portable. ;-) At the moment, it's stuck in a box bedroom in Macclesfield. Being a non driver, it'd be a bit difficult to cart it around the UK. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote flyingveepixie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2018 at 07:21
Aye that's a shame right enough. It'd be great to see it being used on stage somewhere
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Davesax1965 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2018 at 04:59
So would I. Macc is a musical desert, though. ;-)

The problem with doing any electronic music is that people equate it with "electronic dance music". Anyone dances at my gigs, Security can throw them out. ;-)

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote flyingveepixie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2018 at 05:07
Originally posted by Davesax1965 Davesax1965 wrote:

So would I. Macc is a musical desert, though. ;-)

The problem with doing any electronic music is that people equate it with "electronic dance music". Anyone dances at my gigs, Security can throw them out. ;-)


Too right - I would chuck 'em out too..!  I've never been to Macclesfield but up here in the North East there are a fair few live venues although I'm not sure what the listening public demand for Berlin School type Electronica would be.  I guess it's probably a specialist niche market. Personally I love it but I don't know of anyone else in my immediate circle who might appreciate it.   My experience of having Joe Average type people listen and comment on my own music is that my tracks are too long, too instrumental etc,  and most peoples attention spans can't handle it.  I suspect the reaction would be the same for hard core Berlin School.....
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Absolutely, Kenny. I'll have to have a listen to your stuff but I've been known to do 37 minute tracks. ;-)

https://brotherhoodofthemachine.bandcamp.com/track/hin-und-zuruck-3

This is a jam session using two modulars - completely live. 

https://brotherhoodofthemachine.bandcamp.com/album/modular-synth-jam-1-free-download

The problem I've found is that, if you're a mix of Tangerine Dream and Hawkwind, those fans like Tangerine Dream and Hawkwind only (no matter how bad the albums are). There are fans and fanatics and both bands tend to attract fanatics who'll only buy something with the right name on it. Not bothered about making a profit or even some money, but people actually turning up at gigs would be the bare minimum expectation. And it's so risky and logistically difficult that I tend to dismiss the idea as a very long shot. 

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Most of the web traffic I get on the Bandcamp site are people looking for free downloads or just using it as a cheap streaming application. There are quite a few people who listen to long tracks all the way through, but of course never buy anything. I actually can't be bothered with releasing music any more, it's not a case of "no money" but more "no respect". So I tend to play for my own amusement or with fellow musicians. 

And that's the way music will go, of course. Too many headaches to play specialist music live, too many headaches from putting up free music.... why bother with either ? 

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Yep I can only agree with you on that. I get quite a few listens on Bandcamp and Soundcloud and have a massive 13 followers on youtube..!    but almost never any album sales and while most who have the patience to listen to a track all the way through are quite complimentary, very few are actually willing to splash out the price of a Starbucks Latte and a doughnut for a digital album download plus there's all the pirate sites to contend with who steal the music from the Bandcamp page and either sell it for their own profit or give it away free grrr.....

  I'm kind of getting the same way as you regarding album releases and every one I do I wonder if it'll be the last as I'm fed up of banging my head against a brick wall and getting nothing back for my efforts - although having said that I've got a few new short tunes in the recording pipeline so we'll see...   

Anyway, cheers in advance if you have a listen - I've got elements of lots of different styles in my tunes including some Berlin School style sequenced snippets sprinkled in here and there....  so you might like it and you might not, it's pretty kind of crossover with not many of the crazy signature and tempo changes you get with the purest prog so easy enough on the ear ....  I'll check out your jam sessions..


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It's a tough genre, I think there's way more supply than demand, not considering the music that already existed, but the number of albums that are released every year. It's hard to keep up with every artist/band and there's not enough time/patience/money to listen/buy everything. 
I was just happy that someone actually listened to my album in its entirety on Bandcamp last week :P
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Davesax1965 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2018 at 02:50
Aha ! Just found a conversion kit which makes a standard Chinese DSO150 oscilloscope Eurorack compatible. Right, three of these, then. ;-)

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Scope thus. This is someone elses' rig. 




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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Davesax1965 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2018 at 04:08
I think we're nearing completion. Well. "Nearing" being "complete by Spring 2019". 

I say "nearing" as the main case is reaching ludicrous proportions.  For example, this is 8% of the synth internals. (Bit complicated). One and a half rows here. 



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This is the oscillator section for the main cabinet. I might add another three oscillators. In the middle of the two rows here, there'll be a selection of 1U utility modules - mixers, multiple switches, attenuators etc. There are two of these 1U rows planned - the main rows are 3U in height. 



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At the moment, the two side cabinets are 9U in height and contain the eight sequencers, and 6 oscillators and filters, amps and output modules between them. So that's 18U. These are automated - there's a clock signal out from the main cabinet sequencer, this drives the others (at variable speeds using clock dividers and multipliers). Everything stays in sequence. So that's the automated bit of the setup. 

The main cabinet contains, at the moment, six oscillators and there will be another three going in. I also might build another one. So. 9-10 oscillators in the master cabinet. There are "god knows" how many filters. There's a master sequencer going in there which runs in the background. This can be switched on and off (flick of a switch) which means you can solo away and then switch the master sequencer to live. 

The key to building a workable modular synth is to have as many utility modules as possible, which allow you to massively change the sound. This is really complicated to plan out (there are websites which let you design modulars, such as Modulargrid) and to get a workable version is the result of much fiddling and experimentation. So it'll organically change. 

Got a 20U flight case design ready to order from a local company - I have to add power supplies and bus boards (which I might build myself) - then there's internal case wiring and testing, the modules go in in racks, everything still has to be calibrated but..... the end of the tunnel is in sight !! 

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