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Poll Question: Which of these bands is most responsible for getting you into prog?
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^ True--  Rush was, up until their 'split' a while ago (which probably won't last long), the only prog band in the world that remained consistently intact.   It's actually pretty amazing.
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Well, we can all argue about Rush, Pink Floyd and Yes until the cows come home. Let's all agree that they were all influential and important in their own way. I think at some point it gets to be splitting hairs. I had similar debate with someone on this on facebook recently and out of Yes, Genesis, PF and Rush the guy said to me something like "yeah, but which one is still around?" Yes might be my favorite out of those but I have to admit the others are over all more popular. Most Yes fans seem to be fans from the seventies or eighties but somehow Rush and PF in particular keep churning out new fans every day it seems. Lol. They are sort of like what I call bandwagon fans. A lot of Yes fans seemed to have jumped ship after Union it seems and haven't really gained a lot of new ones(relatively speaking at least) which is unfortunate because a lot of younger fans(even prog fans)are missing out on a great band(same thing with Genesis to a degree). 

So yeah maybe Rush lost a lot of their prog fans after Moving Pictures or whenever but at least they gained a whole lot of newer fans after that. I can't say the same for Yes after Union/Talk.


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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^ I was hearing prog on the radio when I was a little kid in the 70s, so though Floyd, Yes and Genesis were much bigger and getting a ton more airplay, they were too adult and arty for a nine-year old.   But Rush on the other hand had some kind of universal appeal that spoke to kids, teens, and adults all at once.   Floyd can't claim that, nor Yes or Genesis or even Tull.


Well, their prog period only went from 76-81 roughly and like I said I doubt they were even thought of as a prog band at the time. 

the first point is highly debatable.. in large part because of the erroneous 2nd part.

Rush lost a good segment of their fans, when they stopped doing prog albums after Hemispheres and (to be fair) progressed from a mere prog group to more diverse sounds and more concise AOR brand of music starting with Permanent Waves. Granted being on MTV and incorporating new wave stylings into their music and doing nice AOR rockers gained them far more fans than they lost but make no mistake. They knew what they were and so did their fans and some never forgave Rush from turning from the prog path and selling out hahah

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^ You're talking about young adults, maybe teens, discovering the music they would go on listening to for decades.   I'm talking about one's very first exposure to music, especially of the era.   Rush was the band that allowed a hard-rockin' adolescent at that time to appreciate not just Queen and Van Halen and Zeppelin but to move on to the Yes's of the world.  

Floyd was hugely popular but they were much more a cultural phenomenon, the Psych-rock pallbearers, than a band that allowed one to graduate to truly advanced music like Yes, Gentle Giant, UK, Genesis, ELP, Tull.   Everyone liked Floyd, prog fans and non, no one knew or cared what category they belonged in and they didn't really lead one to greater music.  

Rush allowed you to move on, to evolve musically.   To grow up.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^ I was hearing prog on the radio when I was a little kid in the 70s, so though Floyd, Yes and Genesis were much bigger and getting a ton more airplay, they were too adult and arty for a nine-year old.   But Rush on the other hand had some kind of universal appeal that spoke to kids, teens, and adults all at once.   Floyd can't claim that, nor Yes or Genesis or even Tull.


Well, their prog period only went from 76-81 roughly and like I said I doubt they were even thought of as a prog band at the time. The other bands sold more records like you said and I think were a more direct route to become a prog fan. I think the fact that Yes has more votes in this poll than Rush kind of proves my point. I'm not saying there weren't fans who got into prog through Rush but I think much more so with Yes, Genesis and PF(which has been proven by this poll and others). To be fair Genesis and Rush are both tied with ten on here. I will say that the metal heads probably took to Rush and got more into prog through them than any other band(at least until Dream Theater)but that's only one segment of the population.


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^ Well they are without doubt less complex than both Yes and Genesis, Tull as well.  That's quite obvious.  You sell them short by assuming more complex music is superior.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

It would have to be Rush, the ultimate prog gateway band, the bridge between high school power-rock and the complex, thoughtful stuff.   How many countless young people did Rush attract to a larger world of rock music, we may never know.

Floyd?   Nah, too abstruse.



Rush may serve that purpose,but you sell them way short when you suggest they are less thoughtful or complex than other prog groups.
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 ^ I was hearing prog on the radio when I was a little kid in the 70s, so though Floyd, Yes and Genesis were much bigger and getting a ton more airplay, they were too adult and arty for a nine-year old.   But Rush on the other hand had some kind of universal appeal that spoke to kids, teens, and adults all at once.   Floyd can't claim that, nor Yes or Genesis or even Tull.
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^Rush is the ultimate prog gateway band? I think these days they probably are(along with Pink Floyd)but I think at one point Yes and Genesis were more so than Rush. I think most Rush fans were just hard rock fans. It wasn't until the internet and social media that Rush were labelled prog and the younger folks started picking up on it and exploring prog. 
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It would have to be Rush, the ultimate prog gateway band, the bridge between high school power-rock and the complex, thoughtful stuff.   How many countless young people did Rush attract to a larger world of rock music, we may never know.

Floyd?   Nah, too abstruse.
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Between Rush and Yes for me.

Rush came first, but since it was while listening to a ton of Yes that I first found out what "Progressive Rock" was (and subsequently started exploring a lot more), I chose Yes.
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Hard to say. Where I lived when I were a kid there were a lot of students around ad friends older bros and sisters . So I heard KC's Lizard at one place, Tull's Living In The Past and Stand Up at another. Pink Floyd were probably the most significant (you can see what this little by was going to grow into). Add into that the sounds of the Beatles, Stones, Cream and the Doors... Oh loved the Moodies (Ride My See Saw. Also like jazz, the cool kind and bebop. Funny child. First..? No idea. Things just don't happen in sequential form.
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I strongly maintain that Procul Harum was the first prog band, so I voted Other: Procol Harum.  Even from the first album, how are Cerdes & Repent Walpurgis not prog?  Out of the bands listed, King Crimson which Scott Muni played on his Things from England segment before the LP came out here, but I'd already seen Procol Harum live 4 times (once at the Anderson Theater sharing a bill with Moby Grape and 3 times at the Fillmore East) before Scott played the KC on WNEW-FM.
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First of all, my first sixteen years were only rocked by the classical music. My preferences went towards Borodine, Rimsky-korsakov, Moussorgsky and Ravel. At 13, I heard for the first time Miles Davis. I  was impressed by his inventiveness, but without money, I do not have to buy of records at that time. 
But my first meeting with the prog will really take place only at 17. A school friend make me listen : King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Uriah Heep, Caravan or Magma in some weeks.
My first purchase was for ELP (Classical roots for sure) and today, it was one of my favorite act.
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Originally posted by wiz_d_kidd wiz_d_kidd wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Which of these bands is the most responsible for you getting into prog for the first time?


This is kind of a weird question because it presupposes that "prog" existed before you started listening to it. So it might only pertain to relative "youngsters".

Many of us started listening to this music in the late 60's or early 70's as the bands emerged, and it wasn't called "prog" then. That term came later. So for us, the question would be "Which band, currently recognized as prog, did you listen to first?". For me, it would be a tie between Crimson and Floyd. I simply can't remember which one I started listening to first.

Yes, if you want to be pedantic you can word it that way. The bands are the most important not the label. Yes, the bands existed before you started to listen to them. I'm interested in knowing what bands eventually led you to discover the genre as a whole. I don't see how that's so difficult to understand.

If I said what heavy metal band did you first hear someone could say Black Sabbath even though BS weren't universally recognized as hm when someone might have first heard them. Same thing. But let's not get caught up in trying to prove revisionism or be pedantic about it. 


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Of the ones listed, Marillion (script, fugazi & misplaced childhood)
Prior to that though it was Dire Straits - Alchemy. The long pieces on there were great (telegraph road, once upon a time in th West & sultans of swing)
Also Jean Michel jarre - rendezvous.
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Pink Floyd, in about 1972. Atom Heart Mother followed by Ummagumma on the same day. I was ten.
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"Other (please specify(even if it's Asia ;)))"

In a way Asia did have a substantial roll to play in my prog journey.
Though the first prog bands I remember as a kid were Yes & Renaissance  
when I was a teen Asia was big & got me listening to more Yes, ELP, Genesis... and on from there. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Which of these bands is the most responsible for you getting into prog for the first time?


This is kind of a weird question because it presupposes that "prog" existed before you started listening to it. So it might only pertain to relative "youngsters".

Many of us started listening to this music in the late 60's or early 70's as the bands emerged, and it wasn't called "prog" then. That term came later. So for us, the question would be "Which band, currently recognized as prog, did you listen to first?". For me, it would be a tie between Crimson and Floyd. I simply can't remember which one I started listening to first.
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