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    Posted: July 18 2018 at 11:28
This one might start some trouble bur here goes.  Name the one band member that ruined a particular band for you.
  I'll start , I like Led Zeppelin but I think I would like them a lot more if they had another singer.
 I don't mind Plants voice on the softer melodic stuff but his screeching on some of the harder stuff goes right through me. Not to mention, how many times can you yell the word " baby " in one song before the lyric police fine you? 
(Please don't kill me Zeppelin fans Ermm)

So, Who is it for you? 


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I wouldn't go so far as to say that it ruins the music for me but I've never been a fan of Martin Turner's vocals on Wishbone Ash.

On some Spock's Beard songs (from back in the Neal Morse days) there are guitar parts from Alan Morse that are grating/screeching and come close to ruining the song for me


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I think I would be bigger Opeth fan if they hadn´t used as much growl vocals as they did. I am really glad they have stopped it.
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It's usually the vocalist(s) for me, as soon as the insipid harmonized vocals come in with bland generic lyrics I jump ship.
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Originally posted by Argo2112 Argo2112 wrote:

This one might start some trouble bur here goes.  Name the one band member that ruined a particular band for you.
  I'll start , I like Led Zeppelin but I think I would like them a lot more if they had another singer.
 I don't mind Plants voice on the softer melodic stuff but his screeching on some of the harder stuff goes right through me. Not to mention, how many times can you yell the word " baby " in one song before the lyric police fine you? 
(Please don't kill me Zeppelin fans Ermm)

So, Who is it for you? 
I agree with you. I think Terry Reid would have been better. Plant gets on my nerves, and that's not counting the masturbation sounds he makes on stage.
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Jesse Lacey ruined Brand New for me. Nothing to do with his voice, just the whole sexual assault thing.
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Peter Cetera’s a great bass player and a good singer, and even a pretty good songwriter, but the success of “If You Leave Me Now” on Chicago X turned him into the band’s resident fruitcake, and the success of his singles ensured there would be more to come. I fear that even if Terry K hadn’t died after XI, his role would have been marginalized anyway.
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I didn't like it when Adrian Belew joined King Crimson.  The music got a little silly.
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I used to spin Pink Floyd albums regularly... before I listened to a few Gilmour and Waters interviews.
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Originally posted by Larkstongue41 Larkstongue41 wrote:

I used to spin Pink Floyd albums regularly... before I listened to a few Gilmour and Waters interviews.

Heh. Recently, I feel kinda the same way after hearing some Neil Peart interviews. It doesn't make me want to listen to the music any less but it does make it a bit harder to separate the man from the art, as it were.  

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I think I would be bigger Opeth fan if they hadn´t used as much growl vocals as they did. I am really glad they have stopped it.

Growling pretty much ruins any song for me.


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Steven Wilson is kinda a grade-A d*** Party and it ruined any interest I had in his music. Used to own all Porcupine and solo, now none. It also didn't age well with me. 

I remember an old thread in these here domains, from an interview from Steven about The Flower Kings:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=88744

Honestly, looking back, Steven viewing The Flower Kings as the death of progressive music, though it is a harsh opinion, is JUST an opinion.

I certainly don't see his viewpoint on that progressive music nowadays needs to be needlessly heavy, infact that's what hasn't aged well with me. Doesn't sound organic to me, lots of the new heavier progressive albums. 

Eh. People can have Wilson. I'd say Hip-Hop is actually today's progressive (Donuts, King Geedorah, Madvillany, MM Food, Frank Ocean, Quasimoto, Viktor Vaughn..) But nobody would go for that, no.. 
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Nad Sylvan ruined Agents of Mercy and pretty much every act he was in (including Anderson/Stolt) for me. Can't stand his choked and clogged voice.
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90% of my choices would involve singers…but I’ll go for something a bit different.

 

Judas Priest had a string of terrific drummers in the 70’s, then David Holland joined in 1979. Maybe he had spent his talent-wad on Trapeze, but he was such a boring time-keeper with almost no fills, rolls, anything. Granted, Priest’s stuff during his tenure was often classic, including their biggest FM hard-rock hits as well as some of my favorites by the band, but I can only imagine how much better songs like “Freewheel Burning” and such would’ve sounded with a more adventurous drummer and not a dull metronome. Him leaving in the late 80’s helped the band’s brief resurgence with Painkiller.

Then the awful sex offences and imprisonment in 2004 made him such a pariah, his name was never brought up concerning the current re-interest in the band and their legacy. When he died this past January, nobody blinked an eye…it was like he never existed in the first place. If somehow Judas Priest wind up in the R&RHOF (I know, not that it matters), I doubt David Holland’s name will be included despite playing drums on the songs most people know them for. I try not to think of the guy while hearing “Breaking the Law”, “You’ve Got Another Thing Coming” and such, but after awhile I notice the plain drum beats, then think of the guy, and what he did later in life…Dead

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Well, Steve Perry took a band with some promise straight into sappy, saccharine arena rock hell.
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Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

  

Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

I think I would be bigger Opeth fan if they hadn´t used as much growl vocals as they did. I am really glad they have stopped it.

Growling pretty much ruins any song for me.
Same for me. But mostly I am not interested at all also the music that has growl vocals, Opeth is the only exception. Haven´t listened some of Opeth´s first albums, I believe they not for me...

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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Nad Sylvan ruined Agents of Mercy and pretty much every act he was in (including Anderson/Stolt) for me. Can't stand his choked and clogged voice.

Haha.. holy Sh-1t. Now that I'm listening to more and more of his songs, I totally got used to the nuances in the guy's vocals and I'm fine with his voice now. Who would've ever thought?
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Novalis and the totally uninspired Hartwig Biereichel on drums. And I know I will get flak from Rush fans for this, but Neil Peart is also totally uninspired, though technically much better than Biereichel. But great technique does not make up for lack of inspiration. Peart is the main reason I don't like Rush.

Rush fans will of course point out the famous Neil Peart drum solo, but this solo actually only proves my point. It is played exactly the same way every time he plays it; not a bit of improvisation at all.


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I don't like Purple with anyone other than Gillan as singer.  
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Dream Theater vocalist (what's his name) is totally insufferable for me (but I make an exception for Metropolis, love the album)
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