The Renaissance Zone

rogerthat wrote: SteveG wrote: ^Wow, that's fascinating! Love following this band's early history. I also like McCarty's solo albums but I've never heard the Pilgrim material. I'll have to check it out asap. I did find Jane's Carpet of the Sun on a source that I cannot name here.  But you will find it easily on the net.  And of course, you should be able to access spotify/deezer which do offer it on streaming.  She sang it quite well, matching up decently with Annie's studio cut.  Live Annie took it to another level.

10-4. Thanks.

rogerthat wrote: SteveG wrote: rogerthat wrote: SteveG wrote: ^Wow, that's fascinating! Love following this band's early history. I also like McCarty's solo albums but I've never heard the Pilgrim material. I'll have to check it out asap. I did find Jane's Carpet of the Sun on a source that I cannot name here.  But you will find it easily on the net.  And of course, you should be able to access spotify/deezer which do offer it on streaming.  She sang it quite well, matching up decently with Annie's studio cut.  Live Annie took it to another level. 10-4. Thanks. Pardon?

Sorry for answering a question directed to another.

"10-4" means "Understood." It's CB radio code used by certain law enforcement, CB radio operators, and people who watch things like Smokey and the Bandit.

Gotcha.  Well, that's the disadvantage of not living over there.  I can pick up a decent amount of slang from the movies and other pop culture products but some things still elude me.

It didn't occur to me that instead of saying that 10-4 means understood, it's also trucker slang for "roger that."

EDIT: Seem to remember a slang thread that would be nice to revive. A Slang around the world would be nice, plus slang through the ages, such as, in keeping with this topic, Renaissance slang: https://www.theodysseyonline.com/renaissance-slang

Edited by Logan - July 15 2018 at 09:04

so it turns out McCarty released another solo album earlier this year.  It's more folky even country but with his intrinsic charm as always.  Apparently Hawken plays piano on at least one track and even Alex Lifeson makes an appearance.  I'll be adding it to the archives shortly.

Edited by kenethlevine - July 15 2018 at 14:21

I finally got around to hearing the mach1's works last night. Started with best of the Yardbirds, then mach1's first two studio albums. Followed by Illusion's two seventies studio albums, McCarty's "Out Of the Dark' and the McCarty/Illusion/Renaissance(!) masterpiece "Through the Fire". Nice. :)

kenethlevine wrote: so how do you rank Ren Mach 1 vs Illusion? Yes McCarty did the Ren/Illusion name proud with Through the Fire

A simplistic answer I suppose, but to me they're apples and oranges. I prefer the mach2 band of course, but the mach1 has it's charms.

Opps, I suppose that's apples vs apples! Lol. Really they are the same to me, except that the Illusion material seemed more fleshed out to me and the songwriting was vastly improved.

Edited by SteveG - July 23 2018 at 10:34

*Awkward bump*

rogerthat wrote: Wasn't McCarty also in the Annie audition?  Unfortunately, though understandably, he never saw himself as part of MK2 though he did remain associated with them from the background up to 1974.  I guess he just had a rapport with Hawken & Co.  What I never understood is the part about Jane Relf quitting performing in 1970 and then coming back in 76 under Illusion.

McCarty said that he lost contact with both Dunford and Betty Thatcher after 1974 as he was focused on the reformed Illusion band. There's always strange band dynamics at play that could have caused Jane to split in '70, such as a row with her brother Keith or a personal relationship that was under strain while she was touring, just as a few examples off the top of my head. We'll probably never know. Btw, I would like to know why John Hawken didn't play on the track Past Orbits of Dust on the mach1 group's second album Illusion.