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Have not watched anything yet so far.

My team is England

Watched pretty much every game so far, best game was Spain - Portugal which was a thing of wonder. Most games have been good, only awful team so far was Saudi Arabia. Lots of tight games, pretty entertaining. VAR hasn't been too bad. Nervously waiting on England on Monday.

Ian

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The favourites who have played so far have all underperformed, the best of which was probably Spain. Even France, despite the win, looked shabby.

Curious for Brasil today.

Edited by Kotro - June 17 2018 at 11:41

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Kotro wrote:

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

VAR hasn't been too bad.

Have to disagree there. As someone who has had a whole season watching it in action at my local championship, I've been founding it atrocious to the point of asking if it's really there. Some very serious mistakes have already been made in so few matches (Portugal and Argentina's awarded penalties merited a review, IMO, Spain's first goal was preceeded by an obvious foul, Argentina should have been awarded a clear penalty) plus a lot of minor mistakes.

I've yet to see a decision that went to VAR called incorrectly. There may be examples that I haven't seen where the ref has overridden VAR by his own interpretation of the video footage (but that's his prerogative) VAR is not going to prevent most instances where fouls committed outside the penalty box are not awarded prior to goals being scored. The only realistic expectation we can have is that it reduces clear and obvious errors where red cards, off-sides and penalty box infringements are not correctly called. The ref is not obligated by VAR to review any decision he has made. Similarly, if the technology fails due to a systemic fault (as it did in the Grand Final match here in Australia) the ref will still have to make the same impartial judgement he and his linesmen have been tasked to make since the game was invented (or are you also going to blame 'lack of VAR' on VAR as well?) There has and always will be mistakes in the officiating of football matches. With VAR, there will be fewer mistakes.

Edited by ExittheLemming - June 18 2018 at 04:51

I always enjoy the WC more once I've got over the personal torture of England performances & they get knocked out.

Ian

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rushfan4 wrote:

USA! USA! US......oh wait...wrong sport!!!

This is not the World Series, the clue's in the name, the world cup, the whole world is invited.

Man With Hat wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

USA! USA! US......oh wait...wrong sport!!!

This is not the World Series, the clue's in the name, the world cup, the whole world is invited.

There are over 190 countries participating this year? Damn, this thing is going to take a loooong time to sort out.

Of the 210 FIFA member countries, 208 participated in the qualification tournament which ran from 12th March 2015 until they arrived at the 32 finalists currently competing in Russia 2018

ExittheLemming wrote:

Man With Hat wrote:

ExittheLemming wrote:

rushfan4 wrote:

USA! USA! US......oh wait...wrong sport!!!

This is not the World Series, the clue's in the name, the world cup, the whole world is invited.

There are over 190 countries participating this year? Damn, this thing is going to take a loooong time to sort out.

Of the 210 FIFA member countries, 208 participated in the qualification tournament which ran from 12th March 2015 until they arrived at the 32 finalists currently competing in Russia 2018

sure. but not everyone made the real tournament.

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Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

It's all the real tournament

I suspect countries like the USA and Italy may disagree.

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Hi,

To be honest, I think that FIFA has not warmed up to VAR or any system that takes some of the cheating out of the game. it seems no one has explained to them that INSTANT REPLAY has not hurt the American games, and is very much a part of American Football (the fall game!), and it does not take anything away from it.

The "fear" that FIFA and other traditionalists have that it takes the human out of the game, is unfair to the players and the fans right now. None of us will complain if the foul is there, or the ball crossed the line. But FIFA does not wish to show that they support VAR, and they are merely complying with TELEVISION and its desire for a more complete game, that does not cheat the fans, which the TV can show you really quick.

As such, ten fouls on Neymar in a game, should have brought on a review more than once, and even showed a couple of cards, but it was ignored. Likewise, taking away goals, and not giving penalties when it should ... just tells you that FIFA told the referees, that do not wish to rely on VAR fo resolve games.

Again, the old line of folks in FIFA need to be removed! The more things change over there, the more they stay the same!

As far as my choice? Any team that relies on one player, is not likely to have a good chance, and will get punished. This has been the case for many years, and FIFA has ignored that some greats are getting punished and it has been like that since Czechoslovakia discovered that all they had to do to stop PELE was to kick him in the ankles until he falls off the game altogether ... which he did, being human! And the same is still happening, and Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar will get punished hard ... unless their teams take up the difference and allow their players to steer clear of punishment ... sadly, only Messi is a great passer of those three.

I'm not sure there is a "favorite" yet, but Belgium and France look promising, but I would not rule out a Portugal or Spain ... their draw shows that they are not going to stop trying to score ... and that is not a good thing for many opponents. I can see it now ... Belgium/Spain or Belgium/Portugal and the score being 4-4! Or another 3-3!

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