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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3625 |
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And how do we feel about The Sea Within?
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17973 |
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Releasing on 22/June......Ordered the vinyl version.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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I got the beards new CD. But not the sea within yet.
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Yeah, Got Sea Within on pre-order as well. Haven't heard a SB album since Feel Euphoria (though have heard a couple tracks from each, on the "best of" album they released a little while ago, which I just got for the live footage with Morse and the new epic written by Morse.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Wonder how many copies the sea within will sell? Will it see sales beyond 50k ?
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Zappy ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 08 2013 Location: Vienna Status: Offline Points: 19 |
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Not even in the realm of that number...at least if we're talking physical sales.
Edited by Zappy - June 03 2018 at 23:07 |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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So how many then. I have often wondered how rare some of the cd's I have in my collection are?
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miamiscot ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3625 |
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I think in the Prog world, 10-15K is awesome!!!
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Physical sales in general are dying a slow death. Vinyl has had a bit of a resurgence in the past 10 years, but it's still small compared to what vinyl sales were even in the 1990's. Most modern mainstream bands would be lucky to get 50K physical sales for an album, let alone a prog band. Of course, if you add in digital sales and streaming, those numbers can go up quite a lot (though not for a prog band, usually). A lot of my prog buddies are fully digital now, and only buy CD's if there is no download option (and are not interested in vinyl at all).
My almost 17 year old son and his friends combined don't own a single physical album between them. In fact, I don't think any of them have ever paid for music at all (despite my trying to impress on my son how important it is that musicians be paid for their work......but music isn't a big part of his life either, like it always has been for me.....even if he did pay for it he'd just pay to download specific tracks). Sad for us old physical product fetishists , but simply the way things have been going for years now. |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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I love unwrapping a new CD. I love reading the little booklet. I suppose it is a fetish. How sad that physical ownership of music may disappear in future times. Mind you machines will replace humans shortly. That's inevitable.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17973 |
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It would not surprise me one bit if the initial press order for vinyl of TSW was about 3,000 LPs and maybe 10,000 CD pressings.
Most vinyl pressing plants require a 500pc min order, will do less but then cost jumps.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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I thought northern Europe was packed with prog fans. Prog bands play to thousands in Germany and Holland surely a few hundred thousand are going to buy just in those two countries alone?
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AlanB ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 19 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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Just seen this on Facebook InsideOutMusic, celebrate their 25th anniversary of being a label in 2018, in what will be one of their biggest and busiest yet. To coincide with this, two of their longest serving artists, Spock's Beard & Roine Stolt's The Flower Kings, will head out on a European co-headline tour in Winter 2018. You can find the full list of dates below: Spock’s Beard comment: "Spock's Beard is excited to announce an upcoming Winter tour! It will be a co-bill with Roine Stolt's THE FLOWER KING’s revisited band, so each show promises to be a great evening of music. We've been getting a lot of questions about who will be playing drums on this tour, so at this time let me introduce our new touring drummer, Mr. Mike Thorne, from SAGA! We are really excited to have him on board and are looking forward to seeing you on tour." Roine Stolt adds: "Asked to put together a band to go on the road, celebrate our label Inside Out's 25 year anniversary - I was thinking of the 'treasure' that is the music I wrote for The Flower Kings during that same period. I felt compelled to bring out this music for yet another round – and in the process bring in some old friends and some new. |
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Wow! I had to go look that up because I hadn't heard anything about that. I do notice that it's called "Roine Stolt's, The Flower Kings Revisited", so I'm thinking it might not be the actual Flower Kings band (though I can't imagine he'd do it without Tomas and Jonas, at least). Anyway, I suspect there will be no US tour of this, but still, good to see that Roine at least feels it's worth the effort to put something together for this and mentions a new song (FK song, I assume)!
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Last date in the republik of mancunia. Acemans!
Edited by M27Barney - June 13 2018 at 12:15 |
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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So I posted that InsideOutMusic 25th anniversary notice over on the old Flower King Yahoo mail group, and it turns out that Tomas Bodin knew nothing about it at all. Not a word to him from Roine. He seemed quite unhappy about not at least being notified this was happening. So it would appear he will not be part of the "Roine Stolt's THE FLOWER KING’s revisited band". This seems odd to me, though perhaps there will be an explanation from Roine at some point.
Still, I don't see how it could The Flower Kings without Tomas (though based on what it's being called, I guess it's really not The Flower Kings, but "Roine Stolt's THE FLOWER KING’s revisited band"). |
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66605 |
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I read some comments on-line that Tomas was no longer able to perform live as a result of an ear injury. I have no idea if this was an alternative fact or not.
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infandous ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 23 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2447 |
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Tomas himself actually posted about that a while back on Facebook. However, his reaction to this "Flower Kings" tour seems to indicate that he is upset at not being asked or informed about this tour at all. He never mentioned not being able to perform live. |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Roj has booked our tickets. Good pre winter solstice gig to look forward to.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17973 |
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I never like to hear when a "band" tours without the other "regular band mates". Generally never a good sign, I have never seen TFK live and was hoping they would come to the US soon. I've seen Roine with Transatlantic, would love to see the whole group.
Hoping to have my copy of TSW by month end.......really looking forward to that album.
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