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dr wu23
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Topic: Ghosts of Pompeii Posted: April 12 2018 at 11:31 |
Hmm...I'm from Indiana...lived here my whole life (northwest IN...where apparently they played also) and went to college at IU in Bloomington in the 70's...never heard of Vesuvius......always something new to discover.
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wiz_d_kidd
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Posted: April 12 2018 at 07:37 |
Well, I was able to reach out to Joe Shingler, aka "Ghosts of Pompeii". He sent me a sampler CD consisting of 17 tracks from various albums. It's really quite interesting and well-done. All of the music was written, arranged, performed, and produced by Joe. I'd like to post a review, but I first have to get Ghosts of Pompeii added to PA. First things first... Gotta start collecting the info.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: April 02 2018 at 13:31 |
verslibre wrote:
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
^ He goes to most of the prog festivals. I always see him at Rosfest. Anyway, people(especially those on here) need to stop buying from amazon and bandcamp or whoever and start buying from him. The problem is he doesn't promote his business much(like most prog vendors don't seem to)and so hardly anyone(unless they have been buying from him for years)seems to know about synphonic.
Also, I don't doubt he's funny but I haven't noticed it much from our conversations. |
He's just trying to keep it pro. But if you get him started (something I'm good at with people, I guess), the jokes start flying. He's not exactly known for a salty mouth, but I've said a few things over the phone that incited some name-calling all in the name of good fun.
Yeah, he doesn't promote Syn-phonic, but in a sense, he's never really needed to. He doesn't have a presence on sites like these because he hates message boards, social media, etc. |
Yeah, I don't think Greg is on here. He was on progressive ears(where I was a member for a long time) briefly before they upgraded to their current site. I believe you are right that he doesn't like message boards and prog sites. I doubt he does facebook much either but don't know for sure. Well, in business 80 percent ofprofits come from 80 percent of your loyal customers(or something like that)so I'm sure he doesn't need to reach out much. He does seem to do very well at Rosfest though. I just wish he would have more "deals."
If you're interested I just noticed that synphonic has ST's "soundtrack for imaginary" movies for ten dollars(which actually is quite a deal).
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 02 2018 at 13:36
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: April 02 2018 at 13:26 |
wiz_d_kidd wrote:
Had not heard of Systems Theory, so I located some online samples on SoundCloud. I assume you're referring to the internet-collaboration band? I liked what I heard. Quite a bit denser and darker than Ghosts of Pompeii, but worth another listen when I get a chance. I'll put 'em on my list...
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Yep same band. Verslibre summed it up well. Sure, not very similar to Ghosts of Pompeii but both instrumental and keyboard oriented.
Here's the link for soundcloud. https://soundcloud.com/search?q=systems%20theory
I could mention others but I'm sort of drawing a blank. I'm sure you already know about Djam Karet. Some of their stuff is ambient and soundtrackish and instrumental.
Anyway, too bad Ghosts of Pompeii seems to be out of print.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 02 2018 at 13:33
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Posted: April 02 2018 at 12:41 |
wiz_d_kidd wrote:
Had not heard of Systems Theory, so I located some online samples on SoundCloud. I assume you're referring to the internet-collaboration band? I liked what I heard. Quite a bit denser and darker than Ghosts of Pompeii, but worth another listen when I get a chance. I'll put 'em on my list... |
Systems Theory was the trio of Steven Davies-Morris (one-time manager of Under The Sun), Greg Amov and Mike Dickson, working in a capacity much like Tangerine Dream (synthesizers), with guests. Their albums are Soundtracks for Imaginary Movies and Codetalkers (IIRC, Overfulnoisecascade, remains unreleased). Greg Amov passed away in 2009. Not sure what SDM is up to at this time. Dickson is still active.
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verslibre
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Posted: April 02 2018 at 12:39 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
^ He goes to most of the prog festivals. I always see him at Rosfest. Anyway, people(especially those on here) need to stop buying from amazon and bandcamp or whoever and start buying from him. The problem is he doesn't promote his business much(like most prog vendors don't seem to)and so hardly anyone(unless they have been buying from him for years)seems to know about synphonic.
Also, I don't doubt he's funny but I haven't noticed it much from our conversations. |
He's just trying to keep it pro. But if you get him started (something I'm good at with people, I guess), the jokes start flying. He's not exactly known for a salty mouth, but I've said a few things over the phone that incited some name-calling all in the name of good fun.
Yeah, he doesn't promote Syn-phonic, but in a sense, he's never really needed to. He doesn't have a presence on sites like these because he hates message boards, social media, etc.
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wiz_d_kidd
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Posted: April 02 2018 at 09:49 |
Had not heard of Systems Theory, so I located some online samples on SoundCloud. I assume you're referring to the internet-collaboration band? I liked what I heard. Quite a bit denser and darker than Ghosts of Pompeii, but worth another listen when I get a chance. I'll put 'em on my list...
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: April 02 2018 at 09:18 |
Well, that's good. It's too bad it's not more widely available. There are other similar albums out there or even ones that maybe aren't too similar but still worth checking out. Have you ever heard Systems Theory? Definitely worth looking into.
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wiz_d_kidd
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Posted: April 02 2018 at 06:24 |
Greg has no inventory of Ghost of Pompeii. He knew Joseph Shingler and tried to email him, but the email bounced back. I found another email after some digging, and it worked! Joseph contacted me and explained that his CD manufacturers were all "burn on demand" and that they have gone out of business. There is no inventory lying around for purchase. He did, however, offer to send me a compilation CD that he sends to those people who express interest in his music. I'll never get all 9 CDs he's produced, but at least I can enjoy what is available.
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 20:39 |
kenethlevine wrote:
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Yeah, Greg Walker is a really nice guy. I actually know him pretty well and have bought a lot of stuff from him over the years(as well as Ken Golden). He does know a lot and is a big fan of Eloy. I'm not crazy about his website(he really should have it redone) but that's a minor complaint. |
I think his website is the best of all the prog oriented sellers, but I realize that may not be saying much. I like his dividing bands up by country, which is do important in prog. The search function is also decent |
The country thing is good but there's no shopping cart and no way to automatically check out. You have to send him an email. On the one hand that's good because you get to see if the title is still available but other than that his website seems behind the game(at least to me)compared to the others. Some of the other dealers have good deals but personally are more or less curmudgeons in person and don't have the friendly vibe Greg has. Any good sales person knows that he/she is selling themself first and the product second.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 01 2018 at 20:40
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 20:34 |
micky wrote:
sad to see he no longer makes it out to Progday.. can't blame him though.. crowd sizes probably don't make it worth the expense and we all know how bad that Carolina heat and humidity can be outdoors. |
I wasn't aware of that. I actually think he still goes sometimes. It just depends. Several of the other prog vendors stopped going for good though(mostly because of the heat).
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 18:51 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Yeah, Greg Walker is a really nice guy. I actually know him pretty well and have bought a lot of stuff from him over the years(as well as Ken Golden). He does know a lot and is a big fan of Eloy. I'm not crazy about his website(he really should have it redone) but that's a minor complaint. |
I think his website is the best of all the prog oriented sellers, but I realize that may not be saying much. I like his dividing bands up by country, which is do important in prog. The search function is also decent
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 15:28 |
sad to see he no longer makes it out to Progday.. can't blame him though.. crowd sizes probably don't make it worth the expense and we all know how bad that Carolina heat and humidity can be outdoors.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 15:18 |
^ He goes to most of the prog festivals. I always see him at Rosfest. Anyway, people(especially those on here) need to stop buying from amazon and bandcamp or whoever and start buying from him. The problem is he doesn't promote his business much(like most prog vendors don't seem to)and so hardly anyone(unless they have been buying from him for years)seems to know about synphonic.
Also, I don't doubt he's funny but I haven't noticed it much from our conversations.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - April 01 2018 at 15:19
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verslibre
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 14:30 |
AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:
Yeah, Greg Walker is a really nice guy. I actually know him pretty well and have bought a lot of stuff from him over the years(as well as Ken Golden). He does know a lot and is a big fan of Eloy. I'm not crazy about his website(he really should have it redone) but that's a minor complaint. |
Indeed! Greg's a funny guy, too. I've enjoyed many joke-laden conversations and emails with him for 20+ years. He moved to Utah so I've not seen him in person since 2002.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 10:03 |
Yeah, Greg Walker is a really nice guy. I actually know him pretty well and have bought a lot of stuff from him over the years(as well as Ken Golden). He does know a lot and is a big fan of Eloy. I'm not crazy about his website(he really should have it redone) but that's a minor complaint.
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 09:48 |
cool... here's hoping you have some luck! Who knows.. guy may have a 100 unsold complementary copies of the album in his basement.. might toss you one just for the effort or liking what you've heard haha.
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 09:14 |
I discovered that Joseph Shingler of Ghosts of Pompeii has been somewhat active (as of this past January) on the Progressive Ears forums using the handle... you guessed it... ghostsofpompeii. Duh. Go figure. I sent a private message. Hopefully he'll get back to me. Still interested in what Greg finds. He has an interesting site. I remember visiting it a long time ago.
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 08:30 |
I haven't shopped there in years Pedro.. I used that site vigerously back in the day when filling out the shelves with classic prog. However since then ..especially when Raff and I merged our rather extensive yet divergent collections I really haven't needed to order from him. However the way I remember he had the site laid out was very easy to use and find just what you were looking for. These days I mainly order new stuff and obviously use the websites of the artists/labels directly to order them. I remember him having pretty much everything.. everything that was available.. and even what he didn't have.. he could help you find... the real obscure stuff which is why I turned to him to help me find that Aussie group.
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Posted: April 01 2018 at 08:19 |
micky wrote:
well captcha being a bitch this morning.
You might not recognize the name but perhaps you do his site and might have checked it already. If you don't see it there try to email him directly and perhaps he can help you find it. Really nice guy if you haven't met him and a real fountain of knowledge.
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I just wish there was more time in the clock for me to check out so many of these things ... sites like this are massive and important, and a lot easier to maneuver than the behemoth of PA, and I STILL can not sort out a list or two in PA properly. Probably too geek'y for me ... and the way it is setup in this location is much easier to follow and learn about.
Sometimes, the simplest things, are the best.
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