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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 10:38
You don't know who committed that poisoning, you have absolutely no idea anymore than I do, but to say that the KGB or Russian government is absolutely not one of many possible suspects is beyond naive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 10:32
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Those three are probably more likely the top 3 in world turmoil.

Easy Money, you haven't noticed my irony? US government and war-turmoil- have been as thick as thieves for a long time. As regards KGB, I don't disprove your stories and don't intend to be KGB advocate; however, KGB is not involved in the case of the phony poisoning in question. MI6 is most probably the perpetrator. They gave James Bond a bad name…again.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 10:16
Those three are probably more likely the top 3 in world turmoil.

Getting back to the KGB, I have many friends from Poland and other East European countries who grew up under KGB dominance. When there is a knock on the door late at night and you never see your uncle again, its not in the name of world peace.
Ask anyone from a country that has dealt with the KGB and see what they will tell you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 10:12

According to the Nobel Committee

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 10:00
^ according to who.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 09:45
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Blaqua Blaqua wrote:

I voted for nothing, as Russians are not behind this staged fake
attack of anti-Putin Russophobia. Boycotting the world cup will only punish the
English team, so it's a silly self-destructive response.


Good ole KGB Putin, all he wants is world peace.

Putin ranks 3rd in contribution to world peace, the UK and US governments occupy 2nd and 1st positions on the podium


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 08:43
Originally posted by Blaqua Blaqua wrote:

I voted for nothing, as Russians are not behind this staged fake
attack of anti-Putin Russophobia. Boycotting the world cup will only punish the
English team, so it's a silly self-destructive response.


Good ole KGB Putin, all he wants is world peace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 03:39
I voted for nothing, as Russians are not behind this staged fake attack of anti-Putin Russophobia. Boycotting the world cup will only punish the English team, so it's a silly self-destructive response.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 04 2018 at 01:09
Update..

Porton Down scientists are now saying they can't confirm where the nerve agent actually came from. Oh dear..

So, although it seems 'probable' that the Russians were involved, there is no actual evidence. Pretty flimsy basis on which to start expelling diplomats and threatening sanctions, and worse.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2018 at 10:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2018 at 16:51
^ Hey, thanks for the kind words! I have avoided these political debates precisely because of how this played out. It's not that i can't prove that the conclusions i've drawn haven't been drawn from actually documents, testimonies, public records etc, it's just that i'm too busy to get embroiled in the murk of it all. These things require that one keeps digging deeper and deeper. I've made my points about the subject at hand ( and some that weren't :) and anyone can investigate anything i've already presented which is my intention. Don't take my word for it, but take it into consideration for your own further studies. Focusing on my music and other projects right now and yet i allowed myself to get sucked into this one Shocked

All i can say is that WHOEVER did it, Russian, insider, Satan, radioactive hamster from Mars etc needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extant of the law for any terrorist activity. That includes our political leaders who unconstituionally start wars and the like.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2018 at 11:31
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by twseel twseel wrote:

^I sure didn't mean to ridicule you, Puppy buddy. I'll still think you're one of the best reviewers on this site and a very nice guy, and a quick exchange of political thoughts shouldn't hurt any of that. Your thoughts here would probably benefit from an expansive overview of facts from your side but of course you're not forced to defend yourself.


Thanks for the kind words

That's exactly the problem. I'm finding it impossible to convey my in depth studies in short blurbs. I'd rather focus on music than getting into all this. I'll have my own music and website out in the near future where I can articulate my ideas in a much more in depth level. However I can easily sum up the gist of my philosophy. Simply be loving to one another and focus and service to others over service to self.
Hmm..sorry if I've come off heavy handed with your views mr puP, but with truth turning into an opinion instead of a fact, someone has to push his agenda in what he regards as the truth and the need to protect it. I too find you a marvelous reviewer and a standup guy, even if I don't agree with your views. I do realize that what you expound on is what you consider the truth, so I do admire that. Please continue expanding on your views and don't go away from these posts. They would be quite boring and incomplete without you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2018 at 11:19
Originally posted by twseel twseel wrote:

^I sure didn't mean to ridicule you, Puppy buddy. I'll still think you're one of the best reviewers on this site and a very nice guy, and a quick exchange of political thoughts shouldn't hurt any of that. Your thoughts here would probably benefit from an expansive overview of facts from your side but of course you're not forced to defend yourself.


Thanks for the kind words

That's exactly the problem. I'm finding it impossible to convey my in depth studies in short blurbs. I'd rather focus on music than getting into all this. I'll have my own music and website out in the near future where I can articulate my ideas in a much more in depth level. However I can easily sum up the gist of my philosophy. Simply be loving to one another and focus and service to others over service to self.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2018 at 10:44
^I sure didn't mean to ridicule you, Puppy buddy. I'll still think you're one of the best reviewers on this site and a very nice guy, and a quick exchange of political thoughts shouldn't hurt any of that. Your thoughts here would probably benefit from an expansive overview of facts from your side but of course you're not forced to defend yourself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2018 at 10:03
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ hey, I respect everybody's opinions regarding these things but I'm not digging the way politically charged threads are playing out around here so I'm practicing what I just preached and am refraining from these polemic threads. Peace out


Aye, it is unfortunate that the discourse has gotten so charged lately.  Which also plays into the hands of the elite.


Inside fighting serves nothing good for sure. I'm more interested in maintaining peace than being right. With so much going on right now it's hard to elegantly articulate one's stance without it becoming misinterpreted easily. I come to this site for music and do not feel these political threads are adding anything positive to it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2018 at 09:57
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ hey, I respect everybody's opinions regarding these things but I'm not digging the way politically charged threads are playing out around here so I'm practicing what I just preached and am refraining from these polemic threads. Peace out

Aye, it is unfortunate that the discourse has gotten so charged lately.  Which also plays into the hands of the elite.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2018 at 09:44
^ hey, I respect everybody's opinions regarding these things but I'm not digging the way politically charged threads are playing out around here so I'm practicing what I just preached and am refraining from these polemic threads. Peace out

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 22 2018 at 09:24
Originally posted by twseel twseel wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

I've heard from insiders that there will also be mass arrests over pedaphelia rings. Apparently at least half of our Congress (both Dem and Rep) are going down soon. There is currently a civil war in our government and i have been told that on a day soon there will be a mass assassination of those who don't surrender. If this is true (and i've plenty of reasons to consider it so) there will be a change of guard virtually overnight.
I'm sorry but you're going further and further into the realm of parody for me. You think there's gonna be an imminent mass assassination of members of Congress? Are you willing to bet $1,000 with me that that's not going to happen in the next decade?

Not that it adds or subtracts any credence to silly puppy's theory but the whole plot of the TV series Designated Survivor revolved around a blow up of the entire Congress (as Congress was in session) with very few surviving the attack.  It is later revealed to have been plotted by a billionaire right winger with a private army who happens to have friends in govt departments as well as Congress.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2018 at 11:10
^ i agree with you totally. No matter what anybody thinks about Russians but you cannot claim that they are stupid. If they really pulled something like this off then they surely would've covered their tracks. One of the greatest fears after the collapse of the USSR was that all the stockpiles of weapons could fall into the wrong hands. I find it totally within the realms of possibility that before Russia got their economic act together a decade later that many of these chemicals and what have ya were sold off to the highest bidder. Even if the weapons originated from the territory that is now called Russia in no way implicates the identities of the miscreants who carried out these attacks. Also, for anyone who understands chemistry there are such things as chemical forgery. Evidence can be tampered with and there are plenty of legal cases in the US alone that have proven it. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 21 2018 at 11:02
According to some Novichok developers (Vil Mirzayanov and others), there were a few kilos of the stuff produced, stockpiled in a shed and left to rot somewhere, so nobody knows where it is now and who's actually got it.

I still maintain that it wasn't the Russians. They're just not that stupid.


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