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Posted: March 18 2018 at 17:54
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Sorry, but I think most people have learnt that you can't trust the government (except the Trump administration, of course), but isn't bringing conspiracy theories and UFOs into it going a bit far? I'd hush up about that, if you want to be taken seriously.
Then again the attack on Salisbury might just have been alien farts. What do I know?
First of all this whole thread is a conspiracy theory in its nature. Secondly everybody knows that it was alien farts that caused the attack but what they don't know is that they were sent here from a slave poodle encampment on Uranus where DNA extracted from Richard Nixon's left testicle created a mutant strain of ebola-bunny that mated with unicorns from Atlantis. It's either that or because Salisbury steaks are crap
Seriously, Dr Wu brought up the UFO thang. Just because someone investigates the unknown doesn't discredit them. Staunch disbelief in the possibilities is just as fundamentalist as tin foil hat conspiracies with absolutely no proof. Oh, wait, i sense this thread is in need of comedic relief moment.
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Posted: March 19 2018 at 04:12
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SteveG wrote:
^ A big part of conspiracy theory is the elaborate complication of the so called "facts." by the theorists. Let's keep things simple, shall we. A great man once wrote a simple statement in the hopes that his fellow citizens would not be bamboozled by wild hyperbole and complicated minutia of detail. It goes like this: "We hold these truths to be self evident".
If your theories cannot be verified using an examination by this simple statement then they are warped. As far as my reasoning for UK's position, do the work and backtrack through these posts and you'll find it.
I reviewed your statements on thread.
1. Russia's history of killing spies.
2." If the British got this wrong, it makes up for the hundreds of other unmentioned acts by the Russians. So be it. "
3."The UK, unlike the Trump crowd, does not state their intelligence findings, that's why you have no proof."
4. "We hold these truths to be self evident". -"If your theories cannot be verified using an examination by this simple statement then they are warped."
Would you like to add anything else to your reasoning?
If these brief statements are not enough to make you think, then no. And what's to think about? How about why followers of conspiracy theorists demand to know why a country's intelligence agency doesn't make their intl public and, in doing so, also make that information public to their perceived enemies; as well as never giving credit to the press and media for never leaving a stone undisturbed in investigating any possible scandal by any leaders of governments of the free world. As if there was absolutely no agency available to leave the power of free governments completely unchecked. Yes, indeed. Why is that?
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Posted: March 19 2018 at 04:55
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SteveG wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
^ the reason i brought up my study of Russian language and culture is to give a sense of my commitment to a subject before i feel i have any authority to even have an intelligible opinion. If anything i have posted here appears as "alternative" facts to you means you simply haven't delved into this stuff as much as i have. Take it or leave it any way that you want but do realize that there are many of us out there who have derived our opinions from extensive research and not just someone else's word. I'm merely presenting things for others to investigate on their own
Boy this is getting tiresome, I'm afraid. Its not your warped world views that bother me but your insistence that you have greater knowledge than those that you engage, as if the people you talk down to are dwellers in a cave. I've been a member of the Students For A Democratic Society (SDS) since 1969 and I'm the chapter's chairperson in my district right up this present moment. I believe that I've studied more political, cultural and social theories and practices than you just based on my observation of your one sided views. Again, that's not what bothers me. Only your failure to tread lightly with someone on the other side of your posts. And please keep this mind, a great amount of warped information is simply not knowledge.
not picking a side.. for that would take knowing what is going on.. but that post. Spot on frickin gold... for I recognize my own faults in your words of wisdom Steve. There is a lot of stupidity and ignorance out there that gave us the current sh*t show we have.. the problem is .. there is so much.. it is easy to assume that most o the people you interactive with virtually are amoung the 80% that vote without considering the consequence.. that express opinions without thought.
Mea culpa my friend. Its easy for us to think that everyone on the other side of a post is an idiot based exactly on your reasoning, which is that so many people voted this clown into office that we must be interacting with some of them at least some of the time. Even with some idiots that didn't vote him in, like Sventonio!
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Posted: March 19 2018 at 10:38
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Iron Hillary? Really? Is that why Hillary signed off on sending 20% of American Uranium to Russia? Iron Hillary wanted to send a message. Well Hillary sent the message cause Russian donors donated 150 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
This was debunked by numerous people. Please update your brain.
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Posted: March 19 2018 at 14:43
progaardvark wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
Iron Hillary? Really? Is that why Hillary signed off on sending 20% of American Uranium to Russia? Iron Hillary wanted to send a message. Well Hillary sent the message cause Russian donors donated 150 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
This was debunked by numerous people. Please update your brain.
Your sources are bias and wrong. And that includes Shepard Smith.
Maybe you should update your brain. Here, let me help you...
My source is World's leading expert on the Clinton Foundation- Charles Ortel. Ortel has studied the Clinton Foundation (and little else) for years. That includes Uranium One, Haiti, and every country or organization related to the Clinton Foundation. But don't believe me, check out...
"Sundays with Charles" is a video series in which Charles Ortel meticulously combs through every line of every piece Clinton Foundation Paper work: Every expenditure, donation, country of origin, tax fraud, ect ect. So far? Over 100 hours of video- 58 episodes and counting.
The FBI, IRS, tax agencies around the world, and members of Congress watch Ortel's dissection of the Clinton Foundation. Ortel is teaching the IRS, FBI, and other organizations around the world- How to investigate the Clinton Foundation. "Sundays with Charles"
After watching around 50 hours myself, I've seen so much Clinton paperwork explained to me that I feel I'm taking a Masters level College Class. And it is a class. And its impressive.
I'll provide a link to the class. You get access to all the videos and if you are an investigator... Ortel will send you all Clinton Foundation paperwork relevant to the area of the Clinton Foundation (CF) you're investigating plus connections with others operating upon the same sections of the CF that that you're investigating.
Here's Yesterday's episode staring Robyn Gritz. Google Robyn and see what pops up. She was all over the news this weekend. Robyn is an enemy of recently fired FBI agent Andrew McCabe.
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 02:17
I always find myself impressed by the reasoning as demonstrated very ably here by someone like ophtalmocsclerosis, for instance. It brings everything back into perspective.
Why should we talk about things like nuclear threats, North Korea, Iran, trade wars, Russian election hacking, the Mueller investigation, dead school kids, and many others, when we should be concentrating on Hillary's e-mails and imaginary deals?
Thank goodness we've got people like that to keep us grounded in reality. A big thank you to you for your tireless efforts. You put the FU back into FUN.
PS. @ophtalmocsclerosis: Ah, I've just noticed that you're in Texas. I'm sure it's very nice there. I think someone might have left a parcel for you on your doorstep. Why don't you go out and shoot it?
No vote as I am not a UK citizen. If this happened on Dutch soil, I'd say blame the Ukrainian government. Maybe that would bring things into balance, just a bit...
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 06:36
npjnpj wrote:
I always find myself impressed by the reasoning as demonstrated very ably here by someone like ophtalmocsclerosis, for instance. It brings everything back into perspective.
Why should we talk about things like nuclear threats, North Korea, Iran, trade wars, Russian election hacking, the Mueller investigation, dead school kids, and many others, when we should be concentrating on Hillary's e-mails and imaginary deals?
Thank goodness we've got people like that to keep us grounded in reality. A big thank you to you for your tireless efforts. You put the FU back into FUN.
PS. @ophtalmocsclerosis: Ah, I've just noticed that you're in Texas. I'm sure it's very nice there. I think someone might have left a parcel for you on your doorstep. Why don't you go out and shoot it?
I appreciate the levity, wit, and comedy.
Nuclear threats and North Korea? Trump is negotiating with NK to denuclearize. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/13/the-denuclearization-of-north-korea/
Trade Wars? Trade Wars are perpetual. When has there not been a trade war?
Russia Election Hacking? Explain this one to me npjnpj.
Mueller Investigation? Wasn't it suppose to be about Russian/Trump collusion? So far zero evidence of Russian-Trump collusion. A Nothing Burger. Am I missing something?
Dead School Kids? You speak of the 17 Parkland deaths. Kids and teachers. Why don't we talk about Opioid overdose deaths? 64,000 Americans died of overdoses in 2016. 2/3's were opioid overdoses.
2015 - 21 school shooting deaths
2016- 9 school shooting deaths
2017- 15 school shooting deaths
School shooting deaths include: Universities, Technical institutes, school parking lots, shootings on school property at any hour such as 3:00AM and children on the way "to or from" school. Approximately half the deaths are adults and several deaths are the shooter.
I didn't bring up Hillary's Emails. However, I expect a 2nd Special Council will be convened later this year to investigate Hillary's emails, imaginary deals, and FISA abuse.
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 06:59
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I woke up feeling like I'm getting the flu. Or perhaps I've been poisoned, as anything seems possible in this thread!
Haven't you learned by now that threads on PA almost NEVER stay on topic?
Look, as far as i'm concerned the very title of this thread
RUSSIAN CHEMICAL ATTACK ON UK
is a conspiracy theory in its own regard and therefore since there is zero proof of any accusations, it opens the door to almost all speculation.
And furthermore since no incident or set of circumstances occurs in a vacuum, it tends to bring up many outlying subjects that lie on the fringe of the topic at hand. So, if you don't want to feel poisoned, i suggest you stick to the BAND X vs BAND Y section
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 07:04
omphaloskepsis wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
Iron Hillary? Really? Is that why Hillary signed off on sending 20% of American Uranium to Russia? Iron Hillary wanted to send a message. Well Hillary sent the message cause Russian donors donated 150 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
This was debunked by numerous people. Please update your brain.
Your sources are bias and wrong. And that includes Shepard Smith.
Maybe you should update your brain. Here, let me help you...
My source is World's leading expert on the Clinton Foundation- Charles Ortel. Ortel has studied the Clinton Foundation (and little else) for years. That includes Uranium One, Haiti, and every country or organization related to the Clinton Foundation. But don't believe me, check out...
"Sundays with Charles" is a video series in which Charles Ortel meticulously combs through every line of every piece Clinton Foundation Paper work: Every expenditure, donation, country of origin, tax fraud, ect ect. So far? Over 100 hours of video- 58 episodes and counting.
The FBI, IRS, tax agencies around the world, and members of Congress watch Ortel's dissection of the Clinton Foundation. Ortel is teaching the IRS, FBI, and other organizations around the world- How to investigate the Clinton Foundation. "Sundays with Charles"
After watching around 50 hours myself, I've seen so much Clinton paperwork explained to me that I feel I'm taking a Masters level College Class. And it is a class. And its impressive.
I'll provide a link to the class. You get access to all the videos and if you are an investigator... Ortel will send you all Clinton Foundation paperwork relevant to the area of the Clinton Foundation (CF) you're investigating plus connections with others operating upon the same sections of the CF that that you're investigating.
Here's Yesterday's episode staring Robyn Gritz. Google Robyn and see what pops up. She was all over the news this weekend. Robyn is an enemy of recently fired FBI agent Andrew McCabe.
Or watch Ortel drill down deep for almost 3 hours on the "2016 Clinton Foundation Charity filings" in this episode...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVH16yc8TOY&t=3s
Please post or send me the links to that. I've heard from insiders that there will also be mass arrests over pedaphelia rings. Apparently at least half of our Congress (both Dem and Rep) are going down soon. There is currently a civil war in our government and i have been told that on a day soon there will be a mass assassination of those who don't surrender. If this is true (and i've plenty of reasons to consider it so) there will be a change of guard virtually overnight.
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 07:08
siLLy puPPy wrote:
SteveG wrote:
I woke up feeling like I'm getting the flu. Or perhaps I've been poisoned, as anything seems possible in this thread!
Haven't you learned by now that threads on PA almost NEVER stay on topic?
Look, as far as i'm concerned the very title of this thread
RUSSIAN CHEMICAL ATTACK ON UK
is a conspiracy theory in its own regard and therefore since there is zero proof of any accusations, it opens the door to almost all speculation.
And furthermore since no incident or set of circumstances occurs in a vacuum, it tends to bring up many outlying subjects that lie on the fringe of the topic at hand. So, if you don't want to feel poisoned, i suggest you stick to the BAND X vs BAND Y section
Yes, the thread title was designed to be provocative and to 'stimulate lively debate'
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 10:31
omphaloskepsis wrote:
progaardvark wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
Iron Hillary? Really? Is that why Hillary signed off on sending 20% of American Uranium to Russia? Iron Hillary wanted to send a message. Well Hillary sent the message cause Russian donors donated 150 million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.
This was debunked by numerous people. Please update your brain.
Your sources are bias and wrong. And that includes Shepard Smith.
Maybe you should update your brain. Here, let me help you...
My source is World's leading expert on the Clinton Foundation- Charles Ortel. [and blah, blah, blah, and so on]
All I'm going to say is that I hope someday you'll find your way out of that rabbit hole you've fallen into.
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 13:35
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I've heard from insiders that there will also be mass arrests over pedaphelia rings. Apparently at least half of our Congress (both Dem and Rep) are going down soon. There is currently a civil war in our government and i have been told that on a day soon there will be a mass assassination of those who don't surrender. If this is true (and i've plenty of reasons to consider it so) there will be a change of guard virtually overnight.
I'm sorry but you're going further and further into the realm of parody for me. You think there's gonna be an imminent mass assassination of members of Congress? Are you willing to bet $1,000 with me that that's not going to happen in the next decade?
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 13:47
siLLy puPPy wrote:
SteveG wrote:
I woke up feeling like I'm getting the flu. Or perhaps I've been poisoned, as anything seems possible in this thread!
Haven't you learned by now that threads on PA almost NEVER stay on topic?
Look, as far as i'm concerned the very title of this thread
RUSSIAN CHEMICAL ATTACK ON UK
is a conspiracy theory in its own regard and therefore since there is zero proof of any accusations, it opens the door to almost all speculation.
And furthermore since no incident or set of circumstances occurs in a vacuum, it tends to bring up many outlying subjects that lie on the fringe of the topic at hand. So, if you don't want to feel poisoned, i suggest you stick to the BAND X vs BAND Y section
12 hours later and I'm still alive! It must have just been another conspiracy theory!
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 14:49
twseel wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
I've heard from insiders that there will also be mass arrests over pedaphelia rings. Apparently at least half of our Congress (both Dem and Rep) are going down soon. There is currently a civil war in our government and i have been told that on a day soon there will be a mass assassination of those who don't surrender. If this is true (and i've plenty of reasons to consider it so) there will be a change of guard virtually overnight.
I'm sorry but you're going further and further into the realm of parody for me. You think there's gonna be an imminent mass assassination of members of Congress? Are you willing to bet $1,000 with me that that's not going to happen in the next decade?
Betting on fiat currency which is nearing its own end game would be a futile bet, my friend ;)
Unless you have studied the shadow government activities you will have zero idea what i'm talking about. Believe it or not there is a break off group of individuals who have in effect amassed a mutiny within the establishment and it has reached the point where its a mass shoot out on multiple levels. You can think i'm crazy or misinformed or whatever but it's not my job to convince anybody of anything but rather seed consciousness with extreme probabilities. While the exact details of what will come to pass can never be precisely predicted, i strongly believe that something big is going down soon based on my having listened to countless hours of these whistleblowers turned rebels having laid out a basic plan to take back the system from the dark forces. If you look around and see the signs of how things are playing out, it's coming together exactly as they've stated.
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Posted: March 20 2018 at 14:50
SteveG wrote:
siLLy puPPy wrote:
SteveG wrote:
I woke up feeling like I'm getting the flu. Or perhaps I've been poisoned, as anything seems possible in this thread!
Haven't you learned by now that threads on PA almost NEVER stay on topic?
Look, as far as i'm concerned the very title of this thread
RUSSIAN CHEMICAL ATTACK ON UK
is a conspiracy theory in its own regard and therefore since there is zero proof of any accusations, it opens the door to almost all speculation.
And furthermore since no incident or set of circumstances occurs in a vacuum, it tends to bring up many outlying subjects that lie on the fringe of the topic at hand. So, if you don't want to feel poisoned, i suggest you stick to the BAND X vs BAND Y section
12 hours later and I'm still alive! It must have just been another conspiracy theory!
And i think i can speak for all of us that we are quite happy you survived! Congrats on another day in PA paradise
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npjnpj wrote:
I woke up feeling like I'm getting the flu. Or perhaps I've been poisoned, as anything seems possible in this thread! 
