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    Posted: February 02 2013 at 09:50
I wanna start learning progressive rock songs, so I'm looking for bands that play in standard tuning.
Can you guys name some for me ? Thanks

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Can't really go wrong with the old stuff, tuning wise. As far as picking out individual songs, I'm not sure. 

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Points: 831 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 02 2013 at 14:33
you can find some great tabs for a lot of songs by King Crimson, Camel, Yes, Genesis, and even a good amount of Gentle Giant! most classic prog bands played in standard tuning for the most part i think, save specific songs of course
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Thanks Guys!
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A lot of KC is NOT in standard tuning, though, as Fripp had his own ideas about standard.
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Originally posted by Andy Webb Andy Webb wrote:

A lot of KC is NOT in standard tuning, though, as Fripp had his own ideas about standard.


but how do we know if something sounds good in any tuning Shocked
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In many cases a song (prog or straight up rock) , for example will sound like it's in the key of F minor while you use your ear to figure it out ...and while being in standard tuning. Actually it is not in F minor, but F Sharp minor and has been lowered a half step by the band and the recording engineer to give the song a special effect. This can be figured out by realizing that specific open strings can only be played in F sharp and not so much F.  Beware of those who consider themselves excellent musicians and transcribe the chord voicings and tabs incorrectly. Just as you have to be aware of the fact that 6 or 7 guitar instructors on a youtube page are not playing a piece correctly and 2 are. One particular instructor may have the intense signature lines of a prog song perfect , but his chord voicings are lame. While a different guitar instructor may cheat on the signature line...yet have the chord voicings exacting. So..I pick from both and get the piece as close as possible. Or maybe I will say the hell with all of them and just use my ear.

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It may depend in a given case on which instrument you play. Steve Hackett normally used the standard tuning while Mike Rutherford at the same time fiddled with all sorts of tunings.
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Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

It may depend in a given case on which instrument you play. Steve Hackett normally used the standard tuning while Mike Rutherford at the same time fiddled with all sorts of tunings.


Ahhh, which possibly explains why I have a terrible time figuring out Genesis bass lines. The ones I have figured out seem to use very different patterns from typical rock bass lines.


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Originally posted by WanderingLogician WanderingLogician wrote:




Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

It may depend in a given case on which instrument you play. Steve Hackett normally used the standard tuning while Mike Rutherford at the same time fiddled with all sorts of tunings.
Ahhh, which possibly explains why I have a terrible time figuring out Genesis bass lines. The ones I have figured out seem to use very different patterns from typical rock bass lines.


Plausibly so. Rutherford played a lot of rhythm guitar too, and as a guitarist that's what I've paid more attention to. His chords even when in standard tuning are always a little quirky. I'm not sure I'm much help to the thread though. I usually try to learn bits and pieces of things that interest me, then get bored and start improvising something. Most recently I tried to work out the guitar lead to Firth of Fifth, which is in standard tuning (A Dorian minor or one of the related modes). But I got up to the part played with a volume pedal. I don't own a volume pedal, and found out that a slow motion pedal was a poor substitute, so I halted there.
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Thus far my songs are only in standard tuning
Link below: The Intricate Melody

https://theintricatemelody.bandcamp.com
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Altered tunings don't make a song "prog".
 
Open D tuning (not drop D) - DADF#AD - coupled with 13 gauge strings, thumbpicks and a slide, I don't tend to use my resonator to play prog on. Neither does anyone else. ;-)

Common tunings you'll come across: drop D, open D ("Vestapol") - open E, open G. And then there's Robert Fripp. ;-))

I dislike having to use altered tunings, you should be able to play most things in standard tuning, but on something like a resonator, it's an absolute necessity, unless you want a warped neck. 

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