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Posted: January 18 2018 at 12:08
Owner is a fairly straight forward pop rock song with some slick production. All Good People is a longer piece with two distinctly different sections. It's certainly not the most prog rock thing Yes ever did, it's much less pop then OOALH.
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Posted: January 18 2018 at 22:48
Quite different instrumentation..."All Good People" actually uses genuine recorders (the wind instruments) played by guest Colin Goldring; guitarra portuguesa, or Portuguese guitar, played by Howe; and old-fashioned Hammond organ vs. synth. I don't think "All Good People" really fits the definition of "pop" as we use it on PA.
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Posted: January 19 2018 at 04:09
Seriously I think one reason, why Yes became so popular, is that they´ve always added great pop vocal melodies into their prog. In their two first albums they made great versions from some great that time pop tunes for example from Beatles and Buffalo Springfield. I think one reason why I started to love prog is when I heard first time great melodies of Yours is no Disgrace. Roundabout is another great example. Between Close to the Edge and Relayer were their most prog time, but they came back to more pop direction in Going For the One (tittle song, also Don´t Kill the Whale in Tormato). So to me 90125 has never been any "they sold their souls to AOR"-album. I still think Yes, Genesis & Caravan eighties albums sounds a lot better than many other old prog band albums of that time.
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Posted: January 20 2018 at 01:31
Mortte wrote:
Seriously I think one reason, why Yes became so popular, is that they´ve always added great pop vocal melodies into their prog. In their two first albums they made great versions from some great that time pop tunes for example from Beatles and Buffalo Springfield. I think one reason why I started to love prog is when I heard first time great melodies of Yours is no Disgrace. Roundabout is another great example. Between Close to the Edge and Relayer were their most prog time, but they came back to more pop direction in Going For the One (tittle song, also Don´t Kill the Whale in Tormato). So to me 90125 has never been any "they sold their souls to AOR"-album. I still think Yes, Genesis & Caravan eighties albums sounds a lot better than many other old prog band albums of that time.
It's a good point and also the reason why Relayer just didn't quite 'take' when it came out. They returned to the winning formula on GFTO. Yes have always been on the friendly side of prog and Jon Anderson must be the most unthreatening person ever
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Posted: January 21 2018 at 13:17
If you think Owner of a Lonely Heart is poppy, you should listen to Trevor Rabin's original version! (starts 1:30 in, after an acoustic demo)
I would say OoaLH definitely sounds more like it was written to be a hit pop tune; much easier to sing the chorus than trying to keep up with "Cause it's time it's time in time with your time" etc... how many times do we sing time again? And what is "I've seen all good people turn their heads each day so satisfied I'm on my way" supposed to mean, and how come they sing it on loop for 3 minutes straight? I think the average person can understand "Owner of a lonely heart, much better than an owner of a broken heart" a lot better.
While I've Seen All Good People is certainly catchy and fairly straightforward for a Yes song (plus each of the movements could stand on their own and be a nice length for radio play), it just doesn't sound as designed for radio as Lonely Heart.
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Posted: January 22 2018 at 17:18
Argo2112 wrote:
Owner is a fairly straight forward pop rock song with some slick production. All Good People is a longer piece with two distinctly different sections. It's certainly not the most prog rock thing Yes ever did, it's much less pop then OOALH.
I agree.
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Posted: February 19 2018 at 21:20
And I see we returned to discuss Yes, while leaving the TTT/ROTGH Genesis comparison alone. Perhaps because that it will ultimately devolve into an '80's Genesis bashing?
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