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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 10:17

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 10:43

Ok so let me get this right:

I'm stupid, or foolish for believing that there is something to the fact that a person who is heavily into the occult had some of that spill in to his music life.

But, Jimmy Page is not foolish for believing in what Alister Crowley espoused? What about Neal Morse who left Spock’s Beard because God told him too (he's also a born again Christian). What about Rick Wakeman is he crazy for believing in Jesus? What about Jon Andersons beliefs? He is a devotee of the "Divine Mother" does that make him stupid? How about Echolyn and Glass Hammer, they are Christians who believe in demons. Are they also stupid?

I suspect that you don't believe that your heroes are stupid and that's hypocritical. If you disagree, then disagree, but you don't need to dismiss me and call me stupid for my beliefs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 10:50
Neal Morse sure is insane, don´t know about the others.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 10:53

First I believed that the Eastern-Bunny hid the eggs in the garden.

Then I found out it was my Father.

Then I believed in santa claus

Then I found out it was my father.

Then I believed in God.

And now I think it might be my Father.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 10:55

Yep, they're all foolish.

There's a difference between believing in a deity and believing that they talk directly to you. A lot of the speculation on this thread has sounded more like the latter. Of course Zeppelin has had occult influences! They were also influenced by Robert Johnson, but nobody's claiming that you can feel the supernatural power of the King of the Delta Blues if you play "The Lemon Song" backwards.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 10:55
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

First I believed that the Eastern-Bunny hid the eggs in the garden.

Then I found out it was my Father.

Then I believed in santa claus

Then I found out it was my father.

Then I believed in God.

And now I think it might be my Father.

In a manner of speaking.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 10:57
I won´t say anything else about this subject, or I will go bananas once again 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 11:19
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

Yep, they're all foolish.

There's a difference between believing in a deity and believing that they talk directly to you. A lot of the speculation on this thread has sounded more like the latter. Of course Zeppelin has had occult influences! They were also influenced by Robert Johnson, but nobody's claiming that you can feel the supernatural power of the King of the Delta Blues if you play "The Lemon Song" backwards.

James that’s borderline retarded my friend.  If you can make the leap of the possibility of a deity, why can you go an extra inch and believe that the deity talks to people? That’s like saying, “You can believe in libraries, but believing that there are books inside is another thing all together.”

Robert Johnson believed in the Devils enough to sell him his soul. Is the “King of Blues” also stupid? I am starting to get the picture hear: ¾ of the world are stupid, and the three pinheads on this board are not. Gotcha.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 12:24
My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a
happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or
her as far away from a church as you can.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 12:30
atheisme is a religion to.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 12:33
Originally posted by Dead Jester Dead Jester wrote:

My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a
happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or
her as far away from a church as you can.

Frank Zappa another pinhead

Considering that he named his beautiful baby daughter "moon unit" you be the judge.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 12:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 12:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 13:06

Ok so some sign in the middle of nowhere speaks for the entire Church of Christ, that's intelligent. Throw out 2000 years of Church doctrine, benevolence etc. and boil it all down to one sign. The president of the United States is a United Methodist does he speak for us all. He doesn't speak for me, I am a socialist.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 13:15

Bilden “http://curiouslee.typepad.com/weblog/images/three_monkeys.jpg” kan inte visas, då den innehåller fel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 13:33

Accepting as absolute fact something for which there exists no evidence whatsoever is probably as good a definition of stupid as you're likely to find,actually.

Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 13:34

And I'm a communist/humanist/agnostic/atheist/reborn Christian, but that doesn't make me superior.

BTW it seems to me were drifting away from the issue.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 13:38
HAHAHA! moon Unit. It is true that by dismissing this you are labelling all religion and supernatural beliefs as stupid. Atheisme is by far the most closeminded belief there is. I'm not going to say we were molded from the Earth; personally I believe in evolutution, but there has to be something beyond that. As I type this I'm listening to Zeppelin, so my conclusion is that they're still awesome musicians even if they sold their souls.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 13:43

Originally posted by Rob The Plant. I'm not going to say we were molded from the Earth; personally I believe in evolutution, but there has to be something beyond that.[/QUOTE Rob The Plant. I'm not going to say we were molded from the Earth; personally I believe in evolutution, but there has to be something beyond that.[/QUOTE wrote:

Why?

Why?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2004 at 13:43
Probably not the best time to point it out, but I can't help it. There is strong evidence against the Americans landing on the Moon, or at least against the film of them landing being real footage.
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