A question about prog-related

BarryGlibb wrote: I noticed that recently Bert Jansch has been demoted from Prog Folk to Prog-related, which is fine, as he was definitely not Prog and initially I was very grateful that he was voted onto PA but I think Prog Folk-related would actually tell the uniformed on the PA site what he actually played i.e. folk music with an edge. So I am all for this type of classification...then maybe the likes of John Renbourn, Richard Thompson, etc could be included.

I questioned the team about Renbourn sometime ago - really don't know if he was rejected or simply lost from memory

OK, glad our little village is (trying) taking care of its refugees

There are clear deviations from the ProgRelated guidelines ~ that bands added must include musicians who were significant or connected to prog rock ~ Metallica and Iron Maiden to name two, who though pioneers in prog-metal had absolutely no direct personal connection to prog rock.   Whereas before Bon Scott joined AC/DC, he fronted a very prog band called Fraternity.   But if taken word-for-word, the PA policy dictates AC/DC should be in ProgRelated because their singer significantly contributed to the early Art/Prog scene.   You see the inevitable problem, and it undoubtedly causes confusion.  

There are also artists who may in hindsight deserve to be on PA, but don't have a clear place since it is not a general Rock or progressive music site: John Lennon and Brian Wilson are two who come to mind who would fall into the infamous "Related to Prog Related" column.

It may help to keep in mind the motivation for creating a ProgRelated category; PR is not a genre or style of music.   It seeks to acknowledge the artists in rock history that contributed to and/or whose members were markedly influenced by the Art Rock/Prog Rock movement, a group of players who were finite and small in scope (if quite common during prog's peak years).   It was not devised as place to deposit any artist that may be deemed near-progressive, para-progressive, or post-progressive.   It is not an animate, evolving subgenre of music and should not be treated as such.  

As for Phil Collins, I suspect it is as much a lack of political will as it is whether he is Prog Related according to PA guidelines--  He clearly is, after practically leading two of the most important rock bands of his time, and his solo albums are obviously admissible here as a Related artist.   The rule demands it and I think someday he will probably be added, I just don't think anyone wants to review his records.




Edited by Atavachron - October 31 2017 at 23:26