Things that don't exist according to science

chiropracticy

humans 

Bertrand Russell

Perpetuum mobile and phlogiston.

Logan wrote: God, although it also doesn't not exist according to science, but lacks evidence.

I disagree about that. It is not about evidence, it is about interpretation. For some the order of the universe is just a coincidence, others see in it the work of a creative mind.

I disagree about either interpretation. You may say "How is that possible?Tertium non datur ("there is no third thing"), but that's because my definition of "God" is not the same as the standard definition. First of all: Everything in the world is a process, not just a thing. Example: An orange will change in the course of time; it will rot.

Now for me there seems to be a tendency in the universe that the more complex a process is the more consciousness it does have. And the most complex process is the universe itself. Therefore I believe it also has a consciousness, and this consciousness I call "God". This is of course a consciousness that is way suoerior to human consciousness. I believe that uch a consciousness might well be aware of all its subprocesses (contrary to human consciousness; we humans are for example not aware of what happens to a single  cell of ours).

Mark that this process has the three major qualities ascribed to God: Omnipresence, because this process is everywhere, omnipotence, because everything possible happens in this process, and omniscience because of its total awareness. It is a kind of pantheistic belief with a slight difference: My God is an evolving God.

Does this God of mine have a morality like the Christian God? I don't think so.

I would like to point to an interesting text by logician Raymond Smullyan named ""Is God a Taoist?".
http://www.newbanner.com/SecHumSCM/IsGodTaoist.html

Smullyan basically shares my concept of God, but his God has a kind of morality: He wants less suffering.

You can of course reject my concept of God and say "This is not what God is all about". It certainly is not the God of Judaism, Christianity or Islam.


Edited by BaldFriede - August 29 2017 at 06:52

This post.

twseel wrote: someone_else wrote: Man-made global warming. the consensus amongst scientists would be that it does exist

Edited by someone_else - August 29 2017 at 07:48

^It surely is, since, even in the small country where I live, most monthly average temperatures have increased during the last few decades, sometimes even by 1°C. But I think that climate changes are very complex processes, too complex to speak about consensus on man-made global warming. There have been fluctuations long before the greenhouse gases and aerosols were emitted on a large scale.

Science, because science cannot prove the existence of abstracts.

someone_else wrote: Surely there is some consensus about its existence amongst fraudulous scientists whose ... er ... science is subordinate to one or another political agenda . The MSM and governmental organizations try to impose this doctrine on the public in an increasingly agressive way, but I refuse to think that there is anything more scientific about this dogma than - for instance - palmistry. I found an interesting article about it. Don't allow messages from this site because they subscribe you without asking, but it's here.