The American Politics Thread

Well come 2020 he will be. Could've worked this time around, I mean really....his appearance looks kinda bad but he's not exactly tons older than Hillary or Trump. Hell he's basically the same age as Biden and people were quietly praying he would enter the race. Darn shame. 

It's doubly painful when you think about down ballot voting...this is purely theoretical but it's not crazy to think a victory for him would've gone along with a Dem takeover of the Senate (as was expected to happen). 

Oh I disagree. He's worthless in pretty much all regards no doubt, I don't even believe he's really "in charge" there seems to be the pull of multiple forces with no guidance, no input from Trump. I mean Anthony Scaramucci has already been removed from his position, supposedly at the decision of Kelly...so it does seem there's like 7 people vying for whatever power they can grab in this WH, but unlike a true authoritarian where they are the undisputed head, Trump is opposite. That said, the way he's used the media IS brilliant. His (basically) free campaign advertising he used em for, and much as the media hates him (for good reason) they need him...he's a boon for them. He gives the people what they wanna hear, like him or hate him. And he's even created this cult now where opposing him, no matter how sane or truthful, feeds the "boooo elites trying to tell us how to think and live! They are opposing Trump like he said!". Even in bashing him, it helps him. 

I think the ultimate power he's created in using the media is how he's tethered to news events. Every week seems he's up or down depending on what happens. He's down now, but one more police shooting, terrorist attack, liberal who has the audacity to speak about race or gender...and he's back up. That's not a good way to live and die but I do fear all his current unpopularity will be wiped out come 2018 by whatever next news event whips white conservatives into fear. 

Maybe there is no smoking gun (though I question exactly what some people want) but there sure seems to be a smoke plume forming

"Trump dictated son's misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer"

Yeah, once the Trump jr meeting became known it seems all agreed the way to handle was for Trump Jr to release a statement to get ahead of the story, and wanted to be truthful so their account couldn't be picked apart later. 

Except Trump. He personally dictated the statement Trump Jr later made which proved to be misleading. Shocking and annoying all lawyers and advisers involved. 

Some quotes:

“This was . . . unnecessary,” said one of the president’s advisers, who like most other people interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive internal deliberations. “Now someone can claim he’s the one who attempted to mislead. Somebody can argue the president is saying he doesn’t want you to say the whole truth.”

Shocking.....

A bit funny eh? All the cries about the liberal media oozing over Obama and colluding to help Clinton, and now Fox has become, quite literally, a vehicle for Trump. 

Granted, the media did favor Clinton including the CNN leaking of debate questions to her which is pretty screwed up, BUT at least I am fair...I'm sure the right will continue to turn two blind eyes, (and close their ears and stuff their noses) to Fox doing this. 

Unrelated, it seems the State Department is missing $79 million in anti Isis funding...because Rex Tillerson hasn't signed off on it. For real, apparently all he needs to do is write 2 brief memos and sign em for this funding to occur, and he simply...just hasn't. What!? http://theweek.com/speedreads/715471/state-department-missing-79-million-antiisis-funding-because-tillerson-sign-two-memos

In addition, seems he has wrecked the agency, there is reportedly confusion, low morale and people creating word clouds to kill time. 

"Hey at least Rex is one of the smart competent ones" they told me..... 

Yikes

That feels a little toooo real now. 

Today in Charlottseville, VA there was a rally, with an estimated 4,000 in attendance, among which there were confederate sympathizers, white supremacists, and neo nazis. One of the people expected to speak was Richard Spencer, the white supremacist who has called for "peaceful ethnic cleansing" to halt the decline of European civilization. This was in public. 

Last night, this group (holding torches) encircled a group of counter protesters, and today one of them drove a car into counter protesters, injuring several people. 

We really are the Roman Empire in decline.... the angry conservatives are right, we really are losing our culture, but it's not because of BLM, mexicans, muslims, feminism, liberalism, mainstream conservatives or embrace of multiculturalism...it's because of these people. Yikes. 

interesting POV...  though  you bet your sweet ass there are similarities it ignores the vast differences between 30's Germany and America today.  

However a comparison with the decline of the Roman empire is quite apt.. one my wife makes quite often and I agree with her. Until we put the Republican Party and everything it stands for against the f**king wall and shoot every damn last one of them this country will continue its slide into into moral and ethical decay which will provide the grease onto the slide of its inevitable decline and fall of the great American empire haha 

Anyone here knows it... should know it at least haha... however just like the 1st Civil War.. the outcome is not in doubt... the only question is how much blood gets spills and how long it takes for progressives to win over the conservatives.  Time and numbers and the moral high ground are all on their sides and they will win. Trump was just a battle this country and the ideals it was based upon lost... but the days of a white Christian nation (the Great that the red-hatters are really for) are numbered and honestly.. there is nothing they can do to win. Demographics are the key.

good to see the thread hasn't lost its lack of civility... though myself like to save it not for snot nosed Europeans who have no clue what is going on here.. but for sh*t for brained Trump voters who are just as ignorant as to what is going on haha who can only hope their lack of responcibility in voting doesn't merely ruin the economy but lead to hundreds of thousands.. perhaps millions of dead. To say nothing of how many of those.. will be our own.   

Being President= temperament and experience.  

Being a Voter = responsibility and thought.