Is Sgt Pepper Prog?

dr wu23 wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Mirror Image wrote: dr wu23 wrote: Can anyone do anything about this Captcha sh*t...? Precisely what I’ve been wondering. It’s getting to the point where posting here is a chore instead of something I enjoy. Is there a way to contact the owner of the forum or whoever designed it and request them to do away with this Captcha crap? It's been a chore for several months......Find another site to enjoy and maybe in the meantime this one will get fixed. What this site has been lacking the past several years is more members, that feeds spirited conversations and threads that take a life of their own. Seems here they die after 2-3 pages.......There are sites where threads can go on for pages and pages, within a day you are looking at 4-5 pages. For me what this does is keeps me engaged in a thread, cause if you leave it you will need to read a ton of pages to catch up. I can leave a thread here and come back couple days later and maybe see 4-5 new posts, not too engaging....Or maybe that says something about prog music, dunno.  Also, the thread answer is still NO! Whether or not threads go on for awhile depends on the quality of the topic and the posts by the members.....and this is not a negative comment on PA at all just an observation. There are many threads here I simply don't find all that interesting....and again this is not meant as a slam on PA....it just is what it is.

Economist thinks so (with a PA reference! - is this a PA member?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/prospero/2017/06/sgt-pepper-50

is the latest One Direction album prog?

^I felt 50 years younger after reading that. F**king amazing!

Trick question? Ah, too bad. I would have said none, naturally. Well, maybe the new one from Miley Cyrus. 

 Saying that SP's is greatest album of all time does not mean it's the most innovative. It 's the most artistically and culturally influential album of all time, and that's the difference, like the album or not.

I would consider it more proto-prog than Prog Proper. It may have needed to happen in order for prog to happen, though.

Thatfabulousalien wrote: Prog? no Proto-prog? no A pop album that influenced prog among other styles of pop and rock? yes

I'm not really that keen on Sgt Pepper myself regardless of whatever classification is has garnered in the intervening years, but I'm not sure why you are endorsing the site's definition of Proto Prog yet somehow arguing for it's exclusion?

Here's an extract from PA's Proto-Prog definition (which is by no means intended to be exhaustive)

The common elements in all these bands is that they developed one or more elements of Prog, and even when not completely defined as part of the genre, they are without any doubt, an important stage in the evolution of Progressive Rock.
Progressive Rock was born from the blending of different genres, we have broadened the definition to cover any band that combined some elements of Progressive Rock with other genres prior to 1970.

Did you actually read PA's definition before you posted?

Mortte wrote: I think all prog books should start with SGT. Pepper. It was first true concept album and define a lot prog that is coming.

Why do you ask? Do you need our permission to add some of it to a prog playlist?

Do you WANT it to be prog? Then it is, when you listen to it.
That is to say (as I've long maintained) the whole "prog" notion is largely subjective: each of us knows what it encompasses from a personal perspective, but there is no concensus as to the parameters of this "genre" that is not a genre. Beyond adding (wildly diverse) artists and putting them in their respective boxes here, the perennial question "but is it prog?" is pointless, I think.

Listen to what you want to listen to, think of it however you like. It's ART, man: words don't catch it or pin it in place like a dead butterfly in a box. YOU are the final essential component in any piece of art--it only fully exists when you experience it, and it is transformed as it passes through your personal, unique "filters." Objectively defining "prog" is much like trying to define "good"--it's a matter of individual perspective and taste.

Now never ask such a question again!