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Posted: December 24 2004 at 12:16

easily done with digital processing.

dont go into the REDRUM!!! where The Shining
meets Pulp Fiction.

see Queen - Flick of the Wrist, Fight From the Inside,
lyrics for details.

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 11:26

Ask any scientist, the odds of a person singing something backwards and forward is astronomical. The fact that the messages are satanic are even more remote.

It's impossible for humans to write these kinds of things.

Rob there are a few others if your interested.

Michael

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 09:46

MERRY CHRISTMAS

Led Zeppelin, Queen, Pink Floyd, ELO, Tangerine
Dream and many others used backward masking in
their late 70's output. Backward masking on vinyl
was used as basically a que for ritualistic behavior.
Pink Floyd(Animals, with cannibalistic references on
sheep) and Genesis(Lamb Lies Down- knock and
knowall, Suppers Ready, is about Jill Gabriel feeling
like shes posessed, you dont get those feelings
setting around watching baseball and eating
hotdogs) use more occult(hidden knowledge)
formula to relay similiar references to ritualism. Yes
is also guilty, ELP(Giger, album cover - has written
serious occult/ritual literature.)
On hallucinagenics(LSD, mescaline, mushrooms)
one is in an altered state that lets other spiritual
forces have control of your mind. Tripping with
friends is one thing(usually enjoyable), false religion
practices is another thing. But when you combind
these drugs with occult practices, which is where the
music is made!!! It takes on a test of the heart, the
acid test so to speak. Pink Floyd "Wish You Were
Here" is Roger talking to Syd about flipping out and
not coming along for the ride. Dont know if it was
Syds choice or not , but for whatever reason it was
that way.
SATAN is dark, LUCIFER was an angel and knows
how to parade as sort of a "False Light". I consider
the most affective rock as Luciferian, not outwardly
dark. It has a greater unknown lure. Most
psychedelic or progressive music takes on a
different meaning in altered states and therefore has
to be experienced in that state to see hidden/occult
meanings.
As younger people you should know that their are
tests out there and they usually come when you are
farther away from Gods covering. Be careful, enjoy
yourselves and above all pray! You only have one life,
do you know of another?

I DONT THINK THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE for a
Zeppelin and the Occult, thread.
Its all REAL! whether you believe or not. Been there,
done that.

Edited by DallasBryan

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 07:37

This is just complete rubbish. If you play the theme tune from "Postman Pat" backwards I can guarantee that will sound pretty spooky too. Grow up!

Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 01:17

I don't really care if it's meant to be there or not. I'm just happy getting the creeps from it.

If Page did sell his soul, I think he ultimately got a bad deal.

backwards messages reference:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1130

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:56

There are many, I found quite a few.

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:55

Well I give up, looks like this one will always be a mystery. I knew there was a better site about it that went into extremely deep detail about it.

"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?"

"Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:49

That's the extraordinary thing, the song makes sense both ways, "sometimes words have two meanings". I find the toolshed part pretty clear though, and if you play around with the song yourself, it's not that easy to get Satan. Whenever he says "There", thta along with the other surrounding wors make Satan, somehow. It's very strange.

I asked someone to listen to it without reading the lyrics, and they recognized the Lyrics largely.

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:44

The toolshed part is IMO pretty inaudible, it could be interpreted many other ways.

Also, making a verse like that would be pretty difficult without knowing how to talk backwards like that one actor guy who could. It's kind of contradictory as to how the lyrics Stairway to Heaven were supposedly written in one night.

"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?"

"Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:35

It just happens to be the Greatest Rock song ever written, also the references are very relevant to Zeppelin. Look up the toolshed thing. It's not exactly a short one word thing anyway.

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:33

You have to take into consideration, theres billions of songs out there. Play enough of them backwards over and over and your bound to find one that is a big coincidence.

"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?"

"Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:31

Pretty elaborate message to be an accident though.

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:30

Its all coincidental! All words with "S" in them played backwards will remotely sound like Satan.

"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?"

"Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:20

Hmm... I think this would have been better if you had asked about any band and connections to the occult. The backwards message is rather creepy, perfecting the inflections necesary to have that effect when played backwards must have been strenous, unless it really was an accident....

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Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:06

I'm sure many of you know about the backwards message in Stairway to heaven. At first I thought it seemed to be done accidently, however th emore I listen to it the freakier it gets. I'm almost convinced that the myths are true.

I am not a Satanist, or even religious, but this elaborate backwards message seems a little too perfect.

If you know the backround of Led Zeppelin (Page's relationship with the occult), then this is even more shocking. There is also a reference to a toolshed in the backwards message, also relating to Jimmy Page and the Occult. Some of the lines in the song, such as "our shadows taller than our soul", may referr to the band members seeing their legacy as more important then their souls. This may seem farfetched ands I may seem crazy to you, but I can't help it, I'm obsessed.

here is a link to the backward message- http:\\www2.memlane.com/jmilner/stairwaybackwards.htm

Edited by Rob The Plant

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DallasBryan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 23 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3323	Posted: December 24 2004 at 12:16
	easily done with digital processing. dont go into the REDRUM!!! where The Shining meets Pulp Fiction. see Queen - Flick of the Wrist, Fight From the Inside, lyrics for details.

mikedevilsfan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: November 20 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 37	Posted: December 24 2004 at 11:26
	Ask any scientist, the odds of a person singing something backwards and forward is astronomical. The fact that the messages are satanic are even more remote. It's impossible for humans to write these kinds of things. Rob there are a few others if your interested. Michael

DallasBryan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: November 23 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3323	Posted: December 24 2004 at 09:46
	MERRY CHRISTMAS Led Zeppelin, Queen, Pink Floyd, ELO, Tangerine Dream and many others used backward masking in their late 70's output. Backward masking on vinyl was used as basically a que for ritualistic behavior. Pink Floyd(Animals, with cannibalistic references on sheep) and Genesis(Lamb Lies Down- knock and knowall, Suppers Ready, is about Jill Gabriel feeling like shes posessed, you dont get those feelings setting around watching baseball and eating hotdogs) use more occult(hidden knowledge) formula to relay similiar references to ritualism. Yes is also guilty, ELP(Giger, album cover - has written serious occult/ritual literature.) On hallucinagenics(LSD, mescaline, mushrooms) one is in an altered state that lets other spiritual forces have control of your mind. Tripping with friends is one thing(usually enjoyable), false religion practices is another thing. But when you combind these drugs with occult practices, which is where the music is made!!! It takes on a test of the heart, the acid test so to speak. Pink Floyd "Wish You Were Here" is Roger talking to Syd about flipping out and not coming along for the ride. Dont know if it was Syds choice or not , but for whatever reason it was that way. SATAN is dark, LUCIFER was an angel and knows how to parade as sort of a "False Light". I consider the most affective rock as Luciferian, not outwardly dark. It has a greater unknown lure. Most psychedelic or progressive music takes on a different meaning in altered states and therefore has to be experienced in that state to see hidden/occult meanings. As younger people you should know that their are tests out there and they usually come when you are farther away from Gods covering. Be careful, enjoy yourselves and above all pray! You only have one life, do you know of another? I DONT THINK THIS IS INAPPROPRIATE for a Zeppelin and the Occult, thread. Its all REAL! whether you believe or not. Been there, done that. Edited by DallasBryan

Pixel Pirate Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 11 2004 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 793	Posted: December 24 2004 at 07:37
	This is just complete rubbish. If you play the theme tune from "Postman Pat" backwards I can guarantee that will sound pretty spooky too. Grow up!
	Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.

James Lee Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525	Posted: December 24 2004 at 01:17
	I don't really care if it's meant to be there or not. I'm just happy getting the creeps from it. If Page did sell his soul, I think he ultimately got a bad deal. backwards messages reference: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1130


Rob The Plant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 15 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 819	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:56
	There are many, I found quite a few.

Vegetableman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 242	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:55
	Well I give up, looks like this one will always be a mystery. I knew there was a better site about it that went into extremely deep detail about it.
	"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

Rob The Plant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 15 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 819	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:49
	That's the extraordinary thing, the song makes sense both ways, "sometimes words have two meanings". I find the toolshed part pretty clear though, and if you play around with the song yourself, it's not that easy to get Satan. Whenever he says "There", thta along with the other surrounding wors make Satan, somehow. It's very strange. I asked someone to listen to it without reading the lyrics, and they recognized the Lyrics largely.

Vegetableman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 242	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:44
	The toolshed part is IMO pretty inaudible, it could be interpreted many other ways. Also, making a verse like that would be pretty difficult without knowing how to talk backwards like that one actor guy who could. It's kind of contradictory as to how the lyrics Stairway to Heaven were supposedly written in one night.
	"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

Rob The Plant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 15 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 819	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:35
	It just happens to be the Greatest Rock song ever written, also the references are very relevant to Zeppelin. Look up the toolshed thing. It's not exactly a short one word thing anyway.

Vegetableman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 242	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:33
	You have to take into consideration, theres billions of songs out there. Play enough of them backwards over and over and your bound to find one that is a big coincidence.
	"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

Rob The Plant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 15 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 819	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:31
	Pretty elaborate message to be an accident though.

Vegetableman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 27 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 242	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:30
	Its all coincidental! All words with "S" in them played backwards will remotely sound like Satan.
	"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."

Hangedman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: November 03 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1261	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:20
	Hmm... I think this would have been better if you had asked about any band and connections to the occult. The backwards message is rather creepy, perfecting the inflections necesary to have that effect when played backwards must have been strenous, unless it really was an accident....

Rob The Plant Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 15 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 819	Posted: December 24 2004 at 00:06
	I'm sure many of you know about the backwards message in Stairway to heaven. At first I thought it seemed to be done accidently, however th emore I listen to it the freakier it gets. I'm almost convinced that the myths are true. I am not a Satanist, or even religious, but this elaborate backwards message seems a little too perfect. If you know the backround of Led Zeppelin (Page's relationship with the occult), then this is even more shocking. There is also a reference to a toolshed in the backwards message, also relating to Jimmy Page and the Occult. Some of the lines in the song, such as "our shadows taller than our soul", may referr to the band members seeing their legacy as more important then their souls. This may seem farfetched ands I may seem crazy to you, but I can't help it, I'm obsessed. here is a link to the backward message- http:\\www2.memlane.com/jmilner/stairwaybackwards.htm Edited by Rob The Plant