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Barbu
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Posted: April 28 2017 at 20:10 | ||
My female cat thinks I'm a loser.
Better get used to it, dudes. |
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: April 28 2017 at 21:37 | ||
Coincidentally I saw a thread on a classical forum asking "what aren't there any 'great' female composers?"
This is a problem outside of just prog, the only genres where woman seem to get their just deserts is pop, country and folk. Something is really not right about that.
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: April 28 2017 at 21:50 | ||
If you got an acoustic guitar and played Yes' And You and I for your significant other, she wouldn't be too offended right?
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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Replayer
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Posted: April 28 2017 at 21:58 | ||
You mean the Freudian slip? |
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Tapfret
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 00:12 | ||
That answer is a little more definite from the standpoint of women's standing in western culture prior to the latter half of the 20th century. It is, by extension, not so much the answer to this thread's question, but more an extension of why we insist on constantly asking the question. |
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 00:27 | ||
Oh right: |
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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uduwudu
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 02:00 | ||
It's often been said that men are visually oriented (ogle) and women are... deeper (emote). I suggest finding a facebook group about some famous rock band if you haven't already. Guys bang on about riffs and stuff. Chicks prattle on (all the time) about how hot some / singer or guitarist (never the bassist, or keyboardist... and hardly ever the drummer because, y'know... the visual thing causes the emotional thing.
At least one knows where we are with women; so predictable. Back to my James Bond movie I think... ;) |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 02:30 | ||
Sounds like you should rename the female Pussy and the male Wussy |
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 02:37 | ||
I once dated a girl who liked Van Der Graaf Generator (although no other Prog) but she was a complete basket case. She said it was just Hamill's anguished voice that she enjoyed. Her second favourite band was Smokie. Women....?
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: April 29 2017 at 02:46 | ||
I think you're all tucked ............
.............any skeletons, any skeletons, any skeletons in the closet.............. |
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15921 |
Posted: April 29 2017 at 04:01 | ||
^ .....actually, looking back, please don't ask what that previous post was all about.......
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micky
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 08:23 | ||
*spits beer on monitor* ahhh.. well named I suppose speaking of.. another topic far more interesting than why more women don't hang out at PA's.. which is really what these threads really boil down to. What is the collaboration between liking prog (or hanging out at PA's if you will) and being cat fanatics. Lord have mercy this forum is full of cat lovers. None more so than my dear wife Edited by micky - April 29 2017 at 08:24 |
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ginodi
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 10:37 | ||
My ten-year old daughter loves Prog. She has seen Ian Anderson, Steven Wilson, Dream Theater, Persephone's Dream, and a couple Pink Floyd Tribute bands. My wife likes some of it.
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aglasshouse
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 11:43 | ||
Different strokes for different folks. Girls'll like prog if they like it, simple as that. If the majority don't then whatever, that's fine.
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 11:56 | ||
Let's not go down that route, before someone inevitably tries to argue that both prog-listening and cat ownership are inextricably linked to higher intelligence and/or cultural sophistication. Surely dogs and pop music are for the plebeian masses, those that seek immediate gratification, while only the intellectual elite can understand the importance of a ten minute masturbatory keyboard solo or of an animal that stares blankly at the corner for 5 hours before tearing your couch to shreds. These are enriching experiences that the peasantry will never know, bound eternally within their own ignorance and shortsightedness.
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HackettFan
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 12:59 | ||
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micky
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Posted: April 29 2017 at 13:14 | ||
hah.....well said! Submissiveness sucks.. in pets, men and women. Dogs are for losers... anything someone can mistreat and still comes back and loves you is pathetic. Any cat owner can tell you stories of how they somehow pissed off their cat and found cat sh*t on their pillow. Now that is character man.... Don't f**k with cats.. .they rule.. they really don't deserve proggers but at least they can appreciate them and at least try to understand them. |
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Timdano
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Posted: April 30 2017 at 09:08 | ||
My wife likes some prog... Steven Wilson, Pineapple Thief, The Dear Hunter and Haken. But honestly, it's due to the music being prog but also very "catchy" in a commercial sense. So her ear picks up on really good songrwriting sans it being prog. Does that make sense? Off-the-charts prog to her though, "sounds like Castlevania" to which I reply, "cool".
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NateHevens
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Posted: May 01 2017 at 11:04 | ||
Actually, there's a very large and growing community of women getting recognition in Blues, Punk, Grunge, and Metal as well. To be honest, I know a lot of women who love prog. It was a group of women who introduced me to Steven Wilson and Porcupine Tree, and just a month ago, I sat down and listened to ELP's album Trilogy, on vinyl, with a group of five other people (not including me)... I was the only man in the group, and the album belonged to one of the other women (though I do own my own copy). We let the music wash over us, occasionally discussing music theory, timing, and so on in context of the songs. Where I find the disconnect is that, no matter how hard I try, I can't find any women who play Prog. I listen to so many women guitarists, but they all play Blues, or Folk, or Metal, or Grunge, or Punk... I'm still searching for a woman who takes her cues from David Gilmour, or Steven Wilson, or Steve Howe, or even Jimi Hendrix... The only women guitarists I listen to who don't really play Blues, Folk, Metal, Punk, or Grunge (and that's debatable) are Ava Mendoza, Anna Calvi, Kaki King, Marnie Stern, and St. Vincent... but they aren't Prog, either. There is one guitarist who plays... not Prog, but experimental guitar... Wata from the Japanese Experimental Noise/Sludge Metal band Boris. And while I know women who's skills on the piano are beyond amazing, they either play Classical, Pop, Rock, Blues, R&B, or Hip Hop. Same idea with women I know who are drummers, bassists, etc. I know and/or listen to so many talented musicians who are women, yet the only women I can find in prog are vocalists... and that's it.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: May 01 2017 at 11:10 | ||
^You should check out Japanese symph proggers Ars Nova. All girl band.
Speaking of the Japanese and women: OOIOO. |
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