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Posted: April 25 2017 at 10:49
Tapfret wrote:
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions and advice everyone, I thought I'd update with my final decision. I ended up deciding on a pair of Sennheiser HD 461's, which I'm very happy with!
G or I?
Hmm, I can't remember. Probably I, but I'm not sure. It doesn't actually say on the headphones themselves, and I don't have the box handy, so I am regretfully unable to answer.
Maybe we can meet in the middle and say H?
when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents
] All I want to say is that I am happy to hear that you are making better strides to get the most out of your music. :) Personally Dave, for a guy who loves his tunes as much as you do I'm kinda surprised you didn't do this sooner. The smile on your face is gonna be huge for when you discover what sound sig really works for you. :)
Well me too
To be perfectly clear; I've never used the stock iphone hp as they were beyond horrible. No I've always used Sennheiser or Sony in-ears and have been rather pleased with them.
I'm not sure why it took me this long to take interest HOW the music sinks it's way down my skull, but now that I do I am making up for lost time - believe you me. Already considering selling my ass to fund a pair of Stax l300
Edited by Guldbamsen - April 26 2017 at 04:42
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
You wouldn't happen to own a pair Dean? I saw a jootoob review by some tech guy (Z perchance?) and when it came to actually conveying how they sounded like he was lost for words rambling about the need for some new language to properly explain his utter adoration. He was quite alright lingo-wise when he talked about specs and comfort though. I certainly didn't understand a lot of it other than Stax makes electrostatic cans...and they sound or at least differ vastly from ordinary driver cans. Now I'm just curious. How do 570£ headphones sound like?
Edited by Guldbamsen - April 26 2017 at 07:31
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Posted: April 26 2017 at 10:42
I have owned electrostatics, but not Stax and certainly not 570 quids worth but after 30 years faithful service they simply fell to pieces (a bit like the final moments of the original Bluesmobile). I have to say they are the closest thing to not wearing headphones I've ever heard (see, I'm not lost for words), in fact if it wasn't for the inescapable reality that all headphones place the soundstage behind you rather than in front of you I'd say the experience was like being in the best listening room your local to-notch hifi emporium has to offer. (but I may be exaggerating).
That just makes me even more curious, thanks I just received my new Sony headphones today and am really breaking them in - as well as listening to a ton of new vinyl that I haven't yet had the opportunity to listen to. Holy shickels though!! Just by plugging these things into my iPod I noticed a gigantic difference to my usual in-ears. I felt I could hear every little detail - even the bass had layers to it. When I then popped on the big jack and started listening to my records an even bigger world opened up. I may just spend the rest of the year right here on my bed. Electronic music in particular has revealed a whole new side to it that reminded me of the time I first started listening to music. "Wow this is music"
What kind of headphones do you use nowadays Dean?
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
My daughter bought me some JVC bluetooth SBT5s for Xmas and I mostly use those because I don't like being tethered. They're not bad considering.
I was actually looking at a pair before I purchased my Sonys but didn't want to go the wireless route (too much of a hassle to have two separate entities to charge before I can listen to music).
Then again the freedom of movement one gets with a pair of wireless HP sounds enticing to say the least.
I just ordered a pair of wireless in-ears for my sis. She's been moaning about her old ones especially since she started working out like a possessed, so I thought I'd surprise her with a new pair. Oh my word though and I thought the cans market was a jungle I must've surfed around for at least 4 hours before settling on my first choice, Creative Outlier Sport in neon green (no less!).
Upon ordering them I couldn't help noticing the 50% off on AKG's answer to the growing Beats market, the Y50s. Now while I'm still over the moon about my Sonys and the terrific sound they produce, they are still equipped with 3 metres worth of nondetachable chord and they're about as handy on the go as a comfy fruit-basket.
Long story short I'm waiting for these puppies to turn up on my doorstep (and yes I did indeed opt for the American taxi cab yellow)
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
I found the Stax L300 review I was on about earlier in the thread if anyone's interested:
Incidentally, this Z fella keeps recommending cheap(ish) headphones that don't retail in Europe I've been looking high and low for Philips HD9500s and Pioneer SE1000s and found nothing (except for US deals that ask for 50-60$ on shipment).
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
OK so I've read through the entire thread and my (very) limited budget brings me down to these 2 main options. AKG K 240 or ATH-M50X. I'd like sound isolation which the M50X seems to offer but comfort is also a priority and the consensus seems to go towards the K240 in this field. I'm tempted to go with the M50X but if anyone who knows both brands well could give me a few clarifications that would be much appreciated. For twice the price of the K240, I'd expect the M50X to be significantly better. Any other models around below $200 I should check out?
I'm also looking for good earbuds as I've gone through 20+ pairs in the last 5 years. Anyone familiar with the VE Monk? I just read they are sold at $5 and are allegedly better than most other earbuds.
"Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar."
I have recently tried on at least a hundred different headphones - some only for a couple of minutes though but I did try both of those models you mention, and I must say that I don't get the wide appraisal of the m50x. The bass is muddy compared to most other models I've tried in that price bracket and the highs became way too bright when I turned up the volume. Personally I much prefer the m40x.Far more detail and clarity imo.
The AKGs were very nice indeed but a) they're open so your music will be playing for everyone around you and b) if you're a bass lover you may want to look elsewhere. That being said there is something there that I really dig about these headphones - a zing a musicality whatever kind of bs you care to insert be my guest.
Personal recs from me:
Open: Superlux 668 (30-40$!), Philips Fidelio X2 (I regret not buying these for half the price! They're still a steal at the current price though (200-250$) Soooo good.)
Closed: AKG K553 (My friend bought a pair and I have been jealous ever since. AKG sound signature but with a bit of bass), Sony MDR-1A (reminds me of my MDR 7506s but way cooler looking and a more "relaxed" sound.)
In-ears? I am rocking a pair of Sony MDR-EX650 AP and they're absolutely brilliant and cheap plus widely regarded as one of the best bargains for the price. I'd recommend them to just about anyone.
Also: don't trust me - trust your ears as much as possible.
Edited by Guldbamsen - June 23 2017 at 10:15
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
I don't get the wide appraisal of the m50x. The bass is muddy compared to most other models I've tried in that price bracket and the highs became way too bright when I turned up the volume. Personally I much prefer the m40x.Far more detail and clarity imo.
Happy to hear that since the M40X is 50 bucks cheaper.
Guldbamsen wrote:
The AKGs were very nice indeed but a) they're open so your music will be playing for everyone around you
Is it really that bad?
"Larks' tongues. Wrens' livers. Chaffinch brains. Jaguars' earlobes. Wolf nipple chips. Get 'em while they're hot. They're lovely. Dromedary pretzels, only half a denar."
I have yet to discover a pair of open headphones that works in public. What you get in airyness and soundstage you pay for by a) bleeding music to your surroundings and b) you can hear everything around you including tv, chatter, dog barking etc etc. I find it easier to pick up tiny details on a closed headphone whereas an open pair needs a quiet room. But in short: if you go for the 240s you can be sure the old mamacita next to you on the bus will be able to hear you blasting weird tunes.
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Anyway if you had your eyes set on those 240s I would probably go for the k553s. They don't bleed and they have some of the same 'magic' as the 240s without being allergic to bass (still not a bassy headphone at all, sound nicely balanced compared to say the m50x).
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Posted: June 23 2017 at 12:30
^^I have the ATH-M40X and they have a natural or neutral sound signature, not tuned more towards the bass like the big brother M50X. I love mine and yes about $50 bucks cheaper!
I do have a portable open on ear headphones that are great for casual listening and portable (fold up), but as David mentioned, they do bleed some and you can hear surrounding noise, but if you are on the go and walking, etc. you may want to hear that bus coming before you walk out in front of it :)
Anyway, they sound very good to me and are somewhat inexpensive (around $70), they are the Sennheiser PX100-II. I find myself listening to these almost as much as the M40X at home.
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