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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: March 07 2017 at 08:38 | |||
As you and I saw this morning on FB - most of the reaction to articles like this are based on extreme (right or left) loonies reacting to the headline without reading the body of the text. I may just get all my news from the Southend News Network in future (and I do like to support my old home town whenever I can)
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Easy Money
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10618 |
Posted: March 07 2017 at 09:09 | |||
The article itself is not near as bad as the title would suggest. The article title is a purposefully inflammatory title, which is unfortunate because the article itself is mostly about nutrition, with a short reference to cultural differences, but I never saw the word 'racist' used in the article. I'm not sure why they felt the need to give this article such a shallow and misleading title, its a bad choice, probably designed to get people riled up over an article that did not mean to get people riled up. |
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twseel
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Posted: March 07 2017 at 09:23 | |||
Knowledge is in facts, the news is just the up-to-date feed of new facts, and if you're going off of a purposefully selected collection of facts to suggest a biased bigger picture that's just unfortunate... You learn at school to take your sources with a grain of salt and leave value judgements seperate from the fact-providers.
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Vompatti
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Posted: March 07 2017 at 09:33 | |||
^ ture
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The T
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Posted: March 07 2017 at 10:00 | |||
Also I love your signature quote. You finally found the true scientific/political statement that defines an era.
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Tapfret
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Posted: March 07 2017 at 12:40 | |||
^Where is TMZ on that thing? That seems to be the news that matters to most of the general public.
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The T
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Posted: March 07 2017 at 13:47 | |||
^That's for celebrity news,not politics....
And a celebrity could never become president here....
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Icarium
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Posted: March 07 2017 at 13:54 | |||
were does french news paper Le Monde fit on that scale, and Al Jazera
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HackettFan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: March 07 2017 at 21:54 | |||
I voted for always biased, but regret doing so because there is some conflation of impartiality and bias. I think some media outlets are genuinely impartial. This does not mean they are unbiased, even if that bias is an uncontoversial ethos of serving the public good (uncontroversial but sadly not universal). That is still a bias, a bias which they may deserve praise for having. I have no problem with confirmation bias as long as one is capable of accepting when their hypotheses may be falsified and remains knowledgeable about contrary claims.
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A Person
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 08:56 | |||
There is no such thing as being unbiased, and anyone who says they are is selling something. Bias takes hold the moment you choose what "news" you are reporting.
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The T
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 09:05 | |||
You're right. For example, neither CNN nor MSNBC aired footage of the Sweden attack or the Bowling Green massacre. The b*****ds manipulators...
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: March 08 2017 at 09:44 | |||
The French have been inventing their own version of the truth for at least 1000 years, they are off the scale but no one knows which way.
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dr wu23
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 22 2010 Location: Indiana Status: Offline Points: 20623 |
Posted: March 08 2017 at 12:14 | |||
I think the idea that the news is biased is exaggerated. If one simply reports an event....whatever the event....where's the bias ?
I can see how the opinion pieces like those from O'Riley and Hannity are biased but not just general reporting. |
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HackettFan
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 12:48 | |||
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 14:09 | |||
Mostly, yes.
But I dont think biased = bad, and certainly not fake. I never once have thought of Fox as fake news, though obviously it's bad, and sources like even Vox while extremely biased, do some good writing. But we've now reached the point where 1: anything you dont like is just labeled "fake news" or 2: anything with a sniff of a bias is "bad" and that's just not true. Which is just not accurate. Heard a great interview with the lead editor of the NY times, and he explained that while we need to be fair, fact based, honest etc the idea that if there's one iota of bias it = trash is quite unrealistic. He cited reporting on civil rights back in the day and how it used colorful, powerful language (and clearly showing a bias). Would you say that pro civil rights coverage is biased fake garbage? Well to many Americans the answer to that is probably yes But you get the point. To me the bigger problem with mainstream news are the agendas...that's what I hate, and think is detrimental to society, especially when it comes to favoring candidates and policies etc I wont even get into Breitbart and the Trumpers, they are so detached from reality and purposely twist everything to fit their camp it's not even worth wasting brain cells on. Just sad that sh*t has trickled up...now mainstream Republicans use "fake news" or say "that's a gotcha question! I wont answer" as ways to worm out of ya know, being asked real questions. That's the problem, they've now made us all have to defend the mainstream media, that many of us don't like, turning all this into more "us vs them" stuff instead of honest critique
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 14:19 | |||
Saw this float around, whoever made it did a superb job.Very honest, fair and accurate. Could debate a few placements but not the intent of course. Will just say NPR should be higher, as that can be some pretty complex stuff and the Economist is weird, very socially liberal and all but economically, all articles should start with "We are shills for intl banking" OH! Also I know "The Hill" has historically been a center right publication, but in recent years I noticed they were quite pro Sanders/less so Clinton and anti Trump and the overall tone of many of their articles have a liberal slant (and that's coming from me). So I guess the madness of current Republicans and politics have shifted them to the left
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SteveG
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 14:41 | |||
I guess that Breitbart is so far right it's off the scale!
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JJLehto
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 14:54 | |||
As it should be! That sh*t is where we do get into the realm of legitimate fake news. Any of their stuff that is based on real events takes a kernel of it, and runs with it 1000 miles. Sad that they have become a near mainstream source now. |
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SteveG
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 15:00 | |||
And this is a serious problem. Right wingers get all of their news from these kinds of hacks and have lost touch with reality. It's the only logical explanation for a Trump Presidency, IMHO.
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HackettFan
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Posted: March 08 2017 at 15:41 | |||
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