Is Styx album The Grand Illusion prog?

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   In Styx discography on PA all of their albums are labeled as prog-related.But I think this album should definitely fall under a "prog rock" term. 
What do you think?

Poll Question: The Grand Illusion - prog rock or prog-related?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
prog rock	15	[60.00%]
prog-related	10	[40.00%]
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TexasKing Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: September 21 2016 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 577	Topic: Is Styx album The Grand Illusion prog? Posted: January 28 2017 at 12:55
	In Styx discography on PA all of their albums are labeled as prog-related. But I think this album should definitely fall under a "prog rock" term. What do you think?

Wanorak Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: December 09 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4574	Posted: January 28 2017 at 12:56
	I would say yes.
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Progosopher Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 12 2009 Location: Coolwood Status: Offline Points: 6467	Posted: January 28 2017 at 21:26
	This album, yes. The remainder of their discography, most of which I enjoy quite a bit, I have to say no. Leanings towards Prog, most certainly. Hence, Prog-Related is an appropriate designation.
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Pastmaster Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 23 2015 Location: Spiderwood Farm Status: Offline Points: 1774	Posted: January 28 2017 at 22:28
	I would say yes, as well as with many of their other albums. I've always thought they would fit fine in symphonic prog or crossover prog honestly.

Catcher10 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17845	Posted: January 28 2017 at 23:16
	I would also say yes to this album....In general thou prog-related works


Sean Trane Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20239	Posted: January 29 2017 at 00:20
	I'd say that Styx's proggiest album (by far) is their debut... But it's clearly the worst prog album ever recorded I enjoyed immensely their albums from Equinox to Po8, but let's face, there was the odd proggy track (like Castle Walls), but the rest was brilliant pomp-rock

Hercules Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Near York UK Status: Offline Points: 7024	Posted: January 29 2017 at 02:41
	I have it, I used to think it was prog, but now I think it's prog-related pomp rock and I haven't listened to it in 20 years because it just isn't that good. It's a 3* album of a band trying to be prog and only half succeeding.
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AFlowerKingCrimson Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18250	Posted: January 29 2017 at 10:38
	Castle Walls was prog. I'm not sure about the rest. Come sail away was proggish especially with the synths. Great album regardless. I can't really decide so I won't vote.

omphaloskepsis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6339	Posted: January 29 2017 at 11:29
	Prog Rock

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	I would say, maybe. But not as much as Pieces of Eight.
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	no
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Barbu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30850	Posted: January 30 2017 at 19:40
	Yes

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	Most (all?) of the Wooden Nickel stuff is much proggier than anything that came after.
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SteveG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20604	Posted: January 31 2017 at 15:39
	Prog? Get a grip. Gezz-us!
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miamiscot Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 23 2014 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 3566	Posted: February 01 2017 at 08:53
	Equinox Crystal Ball The Grand Illusion Pieces Of Eight Those four were Prog. All the rest - not so much!!!

kenethlevine Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 8950	Posted: February 01 2017 at 18:26
	I won't vote because I don't think it matters much. I think it's their best album but still think it's only 3 stars.

uduwudu Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: July 17 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2601	Posted: March 30 2017 at 02:16
	OK album with some stylings borrowed from the usual suspects. To me it's '70s era rock album with a prog arrangement that was more or less fashionable at the time. But there is nothing in the realm of say And You And I. It was merely a way of performing the songs which could have been done as disco number they were so essentially generic. Could've been Saturday Night Fever contenders. Moreover prog rock is an essential composite of classical scope and detail using rock to drive the dynamics. Illusion doesn't really do any of this. I found it disappointing - which is made worse as I had little expectation in the first place. Some of the other albums before it are more listenable to me as rock pieces never mind prog rock. I know AOR is a format rather than a style but this seems to be the orientation (rather than musical direction) of Styx - and where they were very successful.

Tom Ozric Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15916	Posted: March 30 2017 at 02:27
	Dennis DeYoung is a Classically trained Pianist. He applies his skills to his playing in Styx.

maryes Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: August 16 2009 Location: rio de janeiro Status: Offline Points: 990	Posted: March 30 2017 at 15:40
	I think Styx is prog in Equinox, Crystal Ball,The Grand Ilusion and Pieces of Eight. but , The Grand Illlusion is really their great prog moment !