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Poll Question: Is man-made greenhouse warming a hoax/ conspiracy?
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

A majority of PA pollsters, so far, think that the world is millions of years old but that climate change is false. What gives? Confused


A majority here think that man-made (or man exacerbated to put it a little better) greenhouse warming is not a hoax or conspiracy.

One has to take into account the clowning around I did with the poll question as opposed to the topic title.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Upbeat Tango Monday Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:

Gotta love a good, smart, scientific debate.
"Tidal waves are upon us. Mankind is doomed. I feel it in my guts, we are condemned! We will pay for our sins against Gaia!"
You are talking about rapture and judgment day...show me hard proof God exists.
You are talking about men destroying the earth...show me hard proof it is so.

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So the evidence published by climate scientists the world over isn't proof as far as your concerned?

You're equating religious psychosis with science. Good luck with that.

Honestly, global warming has been essentially turned into political psychosis rather than science. Yes, there's absolutely scientific proof that humans have had an effect on climate change since The Industrial Age, but it's turned into a political issue. It shouldn't be, as it has nothing to do with politics and is purely science, hence why it can be hard to have an actual scientific debate about the issue.

Politicians need to get out of the scientific world, so actual science can be presented without bias and agenda. 
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It does have a political dimension, of course, since politicians make decisions on policy and make choices when it comes to funding, direction etc.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:

So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice?


Heavens no! I am not at all worried about the Antarctic ice, because it's too far south to concern me. And it's very dense ice, not unlike some posters on this forum.
Arctic ice by and large does not sit over land. If it melts, it will not raise sea level (Greenland's ice, though, is one serious exception). Antarctic ice sits over a continent, and, if it melts, it will raise sea levels - everywhere.
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Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:

So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice?


Heavens no! I am not at all worried about the Antarctic ice, because it's too far south to concern me. And it's very dense ice, not unlike some posters on this forum.
Arctic ice by and large does not sit over land. If it melts, it will not raise sea level (Greenland's ice, though, is one serious exception). Antarctic ice sits over a continent, and, if it melts, it will raise sea levels - everywhere.

Like I said the darkest Ice is the densest LOL
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Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:

Yes, there's scientific proof that technological advancements since the industrial age have at least partly caused global warming. There is, however, also a pattern of climate change that the Earth has naturally gone in, so it's not like we've completely altered the atmosphere. To believe humans have the power to do that in such a relatively short time is absurd.
Not at all sure why it's absurd. The dust bowl was a man-made ecological disaster that removed the topsoil from 100,000,000 acres. That was done by only a small population of regional farmers with far lower technology than we have today. Humans were 100% responsible. It never would have happened without over farming and inadvisable farming techniques. It was not a 100% man-made because there were other climactic conditions contributing. That's a different assessment, which is also overly reductive, like saying the baseball's mass and density are partly responsible for breaking the window. In actuality, Earth climate would be naturally going in the direction of cooling absent the human contribution.
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Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:

Yes, there's scientific proof that technological advancements since the industrial age have at least partly caused global warming. There is, however, also a pattern of climate change that the Earth has naturally gone in, so it's not like we've completely altered the atmosphere. To believe humans have the power to do that in such a relatively short time is absurd.
Not at all sure why it's absurd. The dust bowl was a man-made ecological disaster that removed the topsoil from 100,000,000 acres. That was done by only a small population of regional farmers with far lower technology than we have today. Humans were 100% responsible. It never would have happened without over farming and inadvisable farming techniques. It was not a 100% man-made because there were other climactic conditions contributing. That's a different assessment, which is also overly reductive, like saying the baseball's mass and density are partly responsible for breaking the window. In actuality, Earth climate would be naturally going in the direction of cooling absent the human contribution.

I forgot about that, and that is true. I guess I wasn't being clear enough, as I was trying to say that some things relating to global warming have been somewhat blown out of proportion in the past. 
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Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by Upbeat Tango Monday Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:

Gotta love a good, smart, scientific debate.
"Tidal waves are upon us. Mankind is doomed. I feel it in my guts, we are condemned! We will pay for our sins against Gaia!"
You are talking about rapture and judgment day...show me hard proof God exists.
You are talking about men destroying the earth...show me hard proof it is so.

Clowns to the left. Jokers to the right.
 

So the evidence published by climate scientists the world over isn't proof as far as your concerned?

You're equating religious psychosis with science. Good luck with that.

Honestly, global warming has been essentially turned into political psychosis rather than science. Yes, there's absolutely scientific proof that humans have had an effect on climate change since The Industrial Age, but it's turned into a political issue. It shouldn't be, as it has nothing to do with politics and is purely science, hence why it can be hard to have an actual scientific debate about the issue.

Politicians need to get out of the scientific world, so actual science can be presented without bias and agenda. 


Dream on! Everything gets tainted by politics, even unicorns on rainbow factories on Planet X.
Seriously, how can this even be a topic? Exxon was already busted for hiding climate change caused by the burning of fossil fuels since the 1950s. While there in irrefutible evidence that humans have been changing the climate at a faster rate, it is quite true that the climate changes with or without us. We are a sort of catalyst. It is also true that we are entering a more energetic sector of the galaxy and the fact is that EVERY planet in our solar system is also experiencing changes in their atmospheric tendencies. The problem is that it is super complex and that science is indeed very much hijacked for the sake of poltical manipulation and to be skewed for money making endeavors (hear that carbon traders?) that create a huge misty cloud of confusion for the scientific illiterates of the world (hello USA! do you hear me?)

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

We are a sort of catalyst. It is also true that we are entering a more energetic sector of the galaxy and the fact is that EVERY planet in our solar system is also experiencing changes in their atmospheric tendencies. The problem is that it is super complex and that science is indeed very much hijacked for the sake of poltical manipulation and to be skewed for money making endeavors (hear that carbon traders?) that create a huge misty cloud of confusion for the scientific illiterates of the world (hello USA! do you hear me?)

Clap It took 5 pages 'till someone come up here posting at last what sums up my thoughts. And I would add China to the major portion of the cake, less than half a century of globalisation and we are already seeing the damn effects on their political relationships.


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I really can't believe this is even up for debate. 

Please other nations, copy what's good about the US, not what's bad. 
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

33.33% of the people here think man-made global warming isn't real. 

Well I guess Trump could also become main super-Admin of ProgArchives after all. 

No T, at least 4 out of the 13 votes have been posted by mistake, due the misleading question.
            
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Originally posted by Pastmaster Pastmaster wrote:


Honestly, global warming has been essentially turned into political psychosis rather than science. Yes, there's absolutely scientific proof that humans have had an effect on climate change since The Industrial Age, but it's turned into a political issue. It shouldn't be, as it has nothing to do with politics and is purely science, hence why it can be hard to have an actual scientific debate about the issue.

Politicians need to get out of the scientific world, so actual science can be presented without bias and agenda. 

Have you ever gone to Santiago?

I have

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You can't breathe and temperature is almost 2 degrees over normal

Have you gone to Mexico City

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China

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Don't tell me this doesn't have a terrible effect on climate.

Don't tell me it's not a political issue.


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^ amen, Ivan.

Los Angeles used to be the same and BECAUSE of regulations set forth by the EPA we can now see the mountains around the city! The solutions may indeed be complex but the evidence is so overwhelming and damning about our contributions to the problem that our species deserves the ultimate Ostrich head in the Sand Award. BTW, most scientists agree that we are now in the 6th mass extinction of the planet due to human  activities so UNLESS you have a degree in the sciences your opinion about this matter is MEANINGLESS

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^^I never said that it doesn't have a terrible effect on climate, and yes it's a political issue in the sense of needing regulation. Again, I had a poor choice of words. I was simply trying to say that politics can get in the way of what's true, with many politicians using real issues to their advantage (On both sides).

It's absurd to believe that global warming isn't real, as is believing that the mountain tops should have been free of ice by 2015/2016.


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Originally posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by EddieRUKiddingVarese EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:

So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice?


Heavens no! I am not at all worried about the Antarctic ice, because it's too far south to concern me. And it's very dense ice, not unlike some posters on this forum.
Arctic ice by and large does not sit over land. If it melts, it will not raise sea level (Greenland's ice, though, is one serious exception). Antarctic ice sits over a continent, and, if it melts, it will raise sea levels - everywhere.

Like I said the darkest Ice is the densest LOL
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^^I never said that it doesn't have a terrible effect on climate, and yes it's a political issue in the sense of needing regulation. Again, I had a poor choice of words. I was simply trying to say that politics can get in the way of what's true, with many politicians using real issues to their advantage (On both sides).

It's absurd to believe that global warming isn't real, as is believing that the mountain tops should have been free of ice by 2015/2016.


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