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Poll Question: Which figures come closest to your views on the age of the Earth?
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    Posted: January 19 2017 at 11:49
Choose which figure come closest to your position. Some might think that it was created less than a millisecond ago, in which case with option 2 but mention your position in a post. Most geologists seem to agree on about 4.54 billion years, whereas various creationists (young earth creationists) think about 6000 years (or less than 10000 years). There are also old earth creationists....

Creation and earth History Museum: http://www.creationsd.org/

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The Museum of Creation and Earth History is a young earth creationist promotional facility opened by the Institute for Creation Research at its original headquarters in Santee, California in 1992, replacing an earlier museum located in the Institute's basement.[1] It cost $50,000, and took 2 years to complete.[2]

After the Institute for Creation Research moved from Santee to Dallas, Texas in 2008, it sold the Museum to the Life and Light Foundation, a non-profit ministry run by Tom Cantor.[3]

The exhibits claim to prove that the Earth is no older than about 10,000 years, and suggest that man and dinosaurs coexisted before Noah's flood, which also created the Grand Canyon.[4] Also featured are an interpreted walk through the Garden of Eden with a literal depiction of the six days in the Genesis, a dark room with pictures of the planets and stars, scale models of Noah's Ark and the Tower of Babel, an Ice Age room, the Canyon Wall, describing how the Grand Canyon was formed in a matter of weeks or months, rather than the millions of years posited by most geologists, and the Hall of Scholars with pictures and biographies of scientists who believed in creationism rather than accepting evolution. It also has a display about the ICR's RATE project, an effort, in conjunction with other young Earth creationist organizations, to find evidence of a young earth.

In 2013 the Museum was denied accreditation by the San Diego Museum Council.[5]


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 12:09
Old Earth is scary and hard to understand. Like medicine, physics, and science.

Also, I won't be clicking on that link. I can only imagine what Googles ad bot will start sending me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 12:12
I think if the Earth had been created only 10000 years ago, it wouldn't be as big as it is today. (Because it has barely grown at all during the past few decades).
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The Stephen Harper views.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 12:49
The way you phrased this everyone will get the poll question right. You should obviously have asked:

Which figures come farthest from your views on the age of the Earth?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 12:53
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

I think if the Earth had been created only 10000 years ago, it wouldn't be as big as it is today. (Because it has barely grown at all during the past few decades).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 13:10
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

The way you phrased this everyone will get the poll question right. You should obviously have asked:
Which figures come farthest from your views on the age of the Earth?


Haha, on a serious personal note: I had actually made a New Years resolution to communicate in a more direct, open and honest way with others, and to be more intellectually honest and direct with myself.   Doing otherwise not only confuses other people, it confuses me at times. I regret my tomfoolery in the way I presented that climate change topic before. I sometimes use silliness as a shield due to my social anxiety.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 13:39
This site could use more silliness, imho.

So very f**king serious at times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 13:51
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 14:00
Good God Monty Python is older than 10,000, what are the Bible bashers thinking............Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 14:00
The Earth is only 2017 years old 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 14:14
I don't care how old it is, can I just have a new one?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 14:35
Donald Trump will sell you one..................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 14:37
Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

I don't care how old it is, can I just have a new one?
 
No man, no way! It's not as disposable as the insignificant human life span.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 15:20
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

The Earth is only 2017 years old 


Finally! Someone who did the math.


Also, I want to change my vote to Iced Earth.

Edited by Tapfret - January 19 2017 at 15:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 15:25
Here in the not so great and not so white North, we call iced Earth the Arctic tundra, and we will until all the permafrost melts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 15:31
Just watch out for teh Yellow Snow...............................
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2017 at 17:04
The question of why do the two different dating methods arrive at such widely differing results is more interesting for me. As we know dating of earth is quite difficult as this is normally done by plotting archaeological finds in the the strata layer in which they have been found, as this stolen graphic shows:
But as you can see, earth (i.e. that strata where life is known to exist) only occupies the first thirty inches of the outer lithosphere of the world. If we work on the principle that the world grows one inch per century, then this makes the earth extremely young (between zero and three thousand years old). Of course the impact of climate change on strata-chronology has yet to be determined but it is expected that the shrinkage caused by fossil fuel pollution is counteracted by the girth increases brought about by the western diet however, it is still estimated that this could produce a +100/-50% error in the estimation. Of course the earth layer is considerably younger than the underlying rock and magma layers but not as young the outer "vegetation" layer.

The alternative method that is based upon the bible code is to simply count the number of verses written in the old testament since creation and multiply that number by the total number of words in the new testament, which gives us an earth-age of 4.2billion years (which is of course preposterous).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2017 at 23:59
4.5 billion years ago. Put evolution aside. Time is the creationists' biggest problem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2017 at 13:55
Dean, for the first time in many years, I suspect you of trolling.

But I could be wrong.
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