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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 15:31 |
Do you believe in man-made global warming? - before reading I just felt like voting (Yes) to get that out of the way. Looking at the results I hope I'm not alone.
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 15:50 |
So..is this all about politics? Really? This is science we are talking about. It seems like all democrats are in favor of believing man-made climate change is a thing, and all GOP voters are against that notion. It doesn't work like that. Individuals don't work like that (or shouldn't work like that, unless they are braindead). Hypothesis are the first step of the scientific method, and it's alright as long as we take them as they are. There are fads we take for granted which are dangerous and might hurt our lives, the industry and the progress of mankind. I remember the times when BS like homeopathy and acupunture were a big thing... Analysing and asking for proof for and against a certain hypothesis is normal in science. Those who speak about "conspiracy theorists, aliens and tinfoil hats" when dealing with unproven hypothesis are well...not that clever in my book.
Edited by Upbeat Tango Monday - January 18 2017 at 15:51
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 15:54 |
I hear tinfoil is not so good in Microwaves
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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Vompatti
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 16:01 |
Plus the tinfoil hat actually functions as an antenna, this is why the mainstream media wants you to wear one.
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CPicard
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 16:02 |
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
So..is this all about politics? Really? This is science we are talking about. It seems like all democrats are in favor of believing man-made climate change is a thing, and all GOP voters are against that notion.
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Well, on one hand, you deny the idea that climate change is a consequence of the human activities and you already have expressed right-wing opinions... So, I'm not sure if you're not taking it to the political field, too, in spite of your call to scientifical reasoning.
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 16:19 |
Left wingers think I'm a conservative, right wingers think I'm a hippie... it all depends on the topic Go on, ask me about my position on family values, religion, drugs and homosexuality...and you'll know how far from those on the right I am. If I were a US citizen, I'd always vote libertarian. I'm just telling you what I think about this particular topic, nothing more than that.
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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Failcore
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 16:20 |
I mean if we gonna go full technocracy, all of us should cram it, because none of us have a phD in atmospheric science.
Edited by Failcore - January 18 2017 at 16:23
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Tillerman88
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 16:40 |
Good sense tells me that I don't need a phD in atmospheric science in order to figure why our planet climate's driven nuts lol
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 17:08 |
Are Nut trees responsible.......................
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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Tapfret
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 19:50 |
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:02 |
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed.............
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:13 |
It was all the Illuminati!!!!
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
https://www.soundcloud.com/user-322914325
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Tapfret
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:19 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. | Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here.
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:29 |
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. |
Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here. |
In terms of being impartial in identifying and solving/ resolving issues Scientist are conflicted, it is in their interests to sprook and even exaggerate issues to keep themselves employed an sometime even to fake results to continue funding.............
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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Tapfret
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:50 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. |
Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here. |
In terms of being impartial in identifying and solving/ resolving issues Scientist are conflicted, it is in their interests to sprook and even exaggerate issues to keep themselves employed an sometime even to fake results to continue funding............. | Fake results? They've been hiding the glaciers in their sheds all these years? Seriously?
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 20:54 |
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
Tapfret wrote:
Believe? Are we asking about unicorns or a messiah?
Here's the thing. Most deniers I've met have kids/grandkids. I do not and my days are rather short now. If they want to leave a dump or the Hunger Games for their progeny, fine, to hell with 'em. Sooner or later the host will reject the infection and repair itself. Until some other absurd species decides it's going to evolve and be "intelligent", while over half of them operate on "belief" rather than evidence, to start the whole stupid process over again. |
But doesn't that go for the "Scientists" too - lets see what the next calamity is in 10 years time when they are searching for research funds to keep them employed............. |
Doesn't what go for the scientists? It's not entirely clear what your position is here. |
In terms of being impartial in identifying and solving/ resolving issues Scientist are conflicted, it is in their interests to sprook and even exaggerate issues to keep themselves employed an sometime even to fake results to continue funding............. |
Fake results? They've been hiding the glaciers in their sheds all these years? Seriously?
I didn't say I was talking about global warming here but that fact remains that Scientists are conflicted- remember cold fusion............. Cause I do!
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/energy/a20454/in-cold-fusion-20-whos-scamming-whom/
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:25 |
We've had the warmest year in recorded history in 2016. Several of the warmest years have occurred in the last decade. There are 7 billion people on the planet, nearly all burning some form of fossil fuel. The arctic ice is melting at an alarming rate.
I would rather err on the side of caution. I would use my perception and experiences to say that humans are indeed adversely affecting the planet. In my youth, I saw rivers in Detroit and Cleveland on fire. I've seen great gouts of man-made smog envelope cities (so bad that people had to wear surgical masks to walk about outside). I've seen soot covering cars in the morning in areas of cities with heavy manufacturing. As I stated, I would rather err on the side of caution and make sure my children and their children live without the threat of environmental disasters that could have been easily prevented if not for greed.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:35 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
We've had the warmest year in recorded history in 2016. Several of the warmest years have occurred in the last decade. There are 7 billion people on the planet, nearly all burning some form of fossil fuel. The arctic ice is melting at an alarming rate.
I would rather err on the side of caution. I would use my perception and experiences to say that humans are indeed adversely affecting the planet. In my youth, I saw rivers in Detroit and Cleveland on fire. I've seen great gouts of man-made smog envelope cities (so bad that people had to wear surgical masks to walk about outside). I've seen soot covering cars in the morning in areas of cities with heavy manufacturing. As I stated, I would rather err on the side of caution and make sure my children and their children live without the threat of environmental disasters that could have been easily prevented if not for greed.
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As long as your not worried about the Antarctic Ice all is well I guess..................
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:38 |
EddieRUKiddingVarese wrote:
The Dark Elf wrote:
We've had the warmest year in recorded history in 2016. Several of the warmest years have occurred in the last decade. There are 7 billion people on the planet, nearly all burning some form of fossil fuel. The arctic ice is melting at an alarming rate.
I would rather err on the side of caution. I would use my perception and experiences to say that humans are indeed adversely affecting the planet. In my youth, I saw rivers in Detroit and Cleveland on fire. I've seen great gouts of man-made smog envelope cities (so bad that people had to wear surgical masks to walk about outside). I've seen soot covering cars in the morning in areas of cities with heavy manufacturing. As I stated, I would rather err on the side of caution and make sure my children and their children live without the threat of environmental disasters that could have been easily prevented if not for greed.
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As long as your not worried about the Antarctic Ice all is well I guess.................. |
I have read more on the problems in the Arctic. It is of more interest to me, since I have been there.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
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Posted: January 18 2017 at 21:50 |
So your not worried about the Antarctic Ice?
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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