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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2017 at 15:40
Drummers I love that are naturally just as underappreciated as the bands they played in. Skipping all those mostly into pure jazz:

Gérard Pons - Moving Gelatine Plates ... well it's two obscure "french Canterbury"-albums so its no mystery that he rarely gets a mention but pure listening joy. Playful and energetic.
Giulio Capiozzo - Area's percussionist wildman.
Jon Christensen - Well enough known but it depends on how you look at it. His lyrical, spacious but still kinda busy percussioning on Terje Rypdal and Jan Garbarek's early 70's albums (+his 1971 soloalbum Underwear) can actually give me goosebumps. 

Among the more known progbands I think Le Orme's Michi Dei Rossi is somewhat overlooked. Even on their gentler or popper stuff he always manages to create an interesting and atmospheric space without ever getting in the way of the melody. Quite an achievement on its own merits.  

- finally the drummer I'd like to think I would have been: Daniel Denis in the early years of Univers Zero. Drum-patterns and grooves so integrated in the composition they can almost go unnoticed, but ever present at the same time. 
  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2017 at 16:51
^ Those are some great suggestions Saperlipopette!

By coincidence I'm listening to Christensen now (on Garbarek's Afric Pepperbird). I was also lucky enough to see him play a small club a few years ago - The Vortex in London with Jakob Bro's band - and he was spellbinding to watch, playing on a smallish kit and frequently hitting the cymbals with his hands and fingers, something I don't recall seeing before. A true Zen master of percussion. Among European improvising drummers of that generation I'd mention Han Bennink in the same breath.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2017 at 17:08
In common with others, most of the examples I'd pick are under-recognised due to playing in bands that don't seem to be well known or much discussed, at least in Anglophone circles. Three currently active players who spring to mind are Stephane Galland of Aka Moon, Ivan Fedotov of Vespero, and Xavi Reija from Barcelona (Xavi Reija Trio etc).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2017 at 17:13
A young player who I suspect is not yet as widely appreciated as he will be before long is Kenny Grohowski. I hadn't run across him until this year when I picked up two albums he drums on (Zorn's The Painted Bird and Rez Abbasi and Junction's Behind the Vibration). It seems to me that he's a genius, and a complete master of both jazz and metal idioms.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2017 at 17:16
Bruce Gary wasn't a prog drummer but he had a knack for creating memorable drum beats.  He wrote the drum line to The Knack's "My Sharona." which beat nails into Disco's coffin.   Bruce Gary played with Dylan, Stephen Stills, Bette Midler, Jack Bruce, Sheryl Crow, members of The Doors, Albert King, John Lee Hooker, and Rod Stewart.   

RIP Bruce Gary!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2017 at 05:27
Some other ones are Brainstorm's Jo Koinzer, Dedalus's Enrico Grosso, and-around PA-Dzyan's Peter Giger. These guys should be household words, they are so good!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 09 2017 at 22:22
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Some other ones are Brainstorm's Jo Koinzer, Dedalus's Enrico Grosso, and-around PA-Dzyan's Peter Giger. These guys should be household words, they are so good!

Thanks, Doug! 

I forgot about Morris Pert from Brand X!  I was lucky to see him in 1978, he was a fantastic drummer and percussionist who also played some keyboards! 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 01:50
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Love that drumming. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbtmWItMr-Q
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 02:59
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Some other ones are Brainstorm's Jo Koinzer, Dedalus's Enrico Grosso, and-around PA-Dzyan's Peter Giger. These guys should be household words, they are so good!

this must be the first time I see you make a comment that is not in any way related to Triumvirat Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 14:53
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Afficher limage dorigine

Love that drumming. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbtmWItMr-Q


It's such a great record all round and such a shame they didn't record more
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 14:54
Here's another good one, because I was just listening to my Kraldjursanstalten album - Michael Maksymenko! Guy is off the hook, but never seems to be mentioned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 15:09
Gotta love Matsymenko! The man playing a hoover
I think i likened the band to this looneybin outfit going at it in the studio after snorting speed and drinking 20 cups of coffee (gotta love that track! Tjugo koppar kaffe).

Overlooked drummers?
Jerzy Piotrowski (SBB)
Giulio Capiozzo (Area)
Aynsley Dunbar (too many to name but I particularly adore his playing on Lou Reed's Berlin. Check out 'How Do You Think It Feels' for proof;)
Giancarlo Stringa (Il Balletto di Bronzo)
Torstein Lofthus (elephant9, Shining etc etc)
Oliver Pedron (Plat du Jour)
Chris Maitland (Porcupine Tree. Much prefer his style over Gavin's tbh)

Special mention goes to Paal Nilssen-Love from The Thing (Mats Gustafsen project). This man is quite simply insane.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 16:01
The ones who were in Spinal Tap LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 18:15
Not mentioned yet, Morgan Ĺgren:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 21:47
Dan Mayo from Tatran is currently one of the best drummers in prog imo...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2017 at 04:18
^ An underappreciated band, really.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2017 at 01:31
Prog is awash with great drummers that very few people can name. It goes with the territory really. At the moment I'm enjoying the drumming of the guy who plays in Wolf People. No idea who he is but I just like what he does. Its hard straight as an arrow stylistically creating a beautiful feel. Probably uses a small kit as he wouldn't need a big one!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2017 at 01:56
Two that come to mind are:

John French - Captain Beefheart's Magic Band. I remember listening to the bonus tracks from Safe As Milk and while he was good on the original album, I think the shift in material allowed him to spread his wings a bit, making him stand out more. I almost liken it to how Bill Bruford turned out when he left Yes for King Crimson.

Guy Evans - Van Der Graaf Generator. Listen to him going nuts at the end of "Scorched Earth". He could definitely keep up with Peter, David and Hugh.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2017 at 08:01
I'd like to mention Andy McCulloch, the drummer of Greenslade and on King Crimson's "Lizard".  I especially like his drumming on "Lizard".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2017 at 08:25
Another big fan of McCulloch here and of Lizard in particular. Truth be told, I think I prefer both Giles and McCulloch to any one drummer in KC. The duo of Broof and Muir though exceeds everything. I think Muir got inside ol Bill's head...in a good way.
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