American Politics the 2016 edition

This is amusing to me as I know blacks, gays, Latinos, Muslins, liberals, socialists, self identified rednecks, white supremacists, Skin heads etc., etc.. These people are not as alien to me as they once were.

TeleStrat wrote: On a high note (), recreational cannabis passed here in California.  That alone should help in dealing with the election results. That is unless you prefer an adult beverage.

Edited by JJLehto - November 14 2016 at 10:28

timothy leary wrote: The T wrote: I don't personally know any white supremacists or skinheads.  I don't want to either.  I don't respect them or anyone who votes for them either.  I am with you on this one. I just want them to crawl back under the rocks they belong under.

Sadly this is the closest they've ever gotten (and hopefully will ever get) to having a place in the spotlight in the national discussion. 

Oh the guy in Canada understand the US better than none. 

timothy leary wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: You have no idea whatsoever how conservative (especially socially) the average person is, because (unlike liberals) conservatives aren't willing to ruin friendships over politics so they keep their mouths shut & their facebook posts apolitical.  The fact that the media narrative is 100% liberal, including entertainment TV and movies, just reinforces the progressive echo chamber. basically What bubble are you living in?

I guess the one where Trump won the popular vote, which he didn't. 

Edited by The T - November 14 2016 at 13:23

progaardvark wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: You have no idea whatsoever how conservative (especially socially) the average person is, because (unlike liberals) conservatives aren't willing to ruin friendships over politics so they keep their mouths shut & their facebook posts apolitical. It must smell nice in that bubble you live in. From out here it smells like a raging potato salad urinating all over the back seat of a 1974 Ford Maverick.

Blimey. Are potato salads capable of urinating? Are raging potato salads urinating worse than ordinary ones? Is it worse on the back seat than the front? Would it make any difference in a 1976 Capri?

I think we should be told

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The T wrote: garfunkel wrote: When will liberals stop using f---ing buzzwords to describe a whole group of people YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW?! Probably when people like you stop doing the same

'stop it'

enough said... ahhh.. thanks for that Donald. Just a bit too late on that...   One is blind or stupid if one doesn't don't realize or accept that racism.. was very much at the heart of Trump's campaign and those he was appealing to..  that is NOT the same as saying all were... sure there were some that actually thought some silver spoon motherf**ker cares about you are me....but you bet your sweet ass he played to the racists and bigots. Played to their fear of a non white.. non Christian nation.  If you know anything about politics you know that is page 1 in the Republican play book going back to Willie Horton and black men raping your white women.

Also....You were blind or ignorant.. or just some white kid with no life experience if you didn't realize his campaign rhetoric was geared to playing upon his supporters fear..  and of course it has come to roost.. it isn't liberal bias that made Trump come out today and plead for his supporters to 'stop it'.  If that was his vision of making America great? Well...

I'm not sure if made national news.. but the high schools students here in the D.C area left school in the middle of day and blocked local traffic in protest of Trump... and why did they.. it was ALL about the racism he fed upon. Good for you all....

so yeah.. tell me how that makes America great.

The T wrote: timothy leary wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: You have no idea whatsoever how conservative (especially socially) the average person is, because (unlike liberals) conservatives aren't willing to ruin friendships over politics so they keep their mouths shut & their facebook posts apolitical.  The fact that the media narrative is 100% liberal, including entertainment TV and movies, just reinforces the progressive echo chamber. basically What bubble are you living in? I guess the one where Trump won the popular vote, which he didn't.

the right wing bubble.. the haven't progressed to reading.. only looking at the pretty pictures I suppose.

Look at the little itty bitty spot of northern Virginia..... that is half a million votes for Clinton over Trump.  I saw the final numbers today. .wow...  turn out here was over 80% of elligible voters.. remember the educated do vote more.. they know what is at stake..  and they did deliver Virginia...

I was looking over some returns in Texas... oh sure Trump won them.... they have less than 100 votes

on that note....  it does seem Hillary really blew it by ignoring the rural voters... oh sure Repblicans win there.. but instead of the number 2-1 losses... it was 3-1.. approaching 4-1.. and that was likely what drove some states red... unlike Viriginia which Clinton held her own in the sticks...  that became too much for even the populous areas to overcome.

Triceratopsoil wrote: You have no idea whatsoever how conservative (especially socially) the average person is, because (unlike liberals) conservatives aren't willing to ruin friendships over politics so they keep their mouths shut & their facebook posts apolitical.  The fact that the media narrative is 100% liberal, including entertainment TV and movies, just reinforces the progressive echo chamber. basically

Most people don't ruin friendships over politics, or even avoid politics for fear of doing so. Most people can and do discuss politics without descending into histrionics. I have Facebook friends on both sides of the fence here, and neither side are presently avoiding politics in their posts. The targets of hateful messages are invariably the other: the faceless mass or the singular human representation of a party's perceived weaknesses. It's easy to hate on people you haven't met and will never meet. They aren't even people, per se, they're just a haphazard amalgam of stereotypes given a name for easy reference. Your friends, however, are people whose names, faces, and families you know. There's a context that softens every disagreement. My brother will never be convinced that I support a candidate with anything but the best intentions for our country.

On the topic of media, mainstream media is fairly accurate and therefore quite boring.

I discussed with a few co-workers today the lifestyles of people in different regions, specifically as it pertained to the desolate state of Wyoming. Unless you have good reason to leave your home, you'll often never experience a way of life beyond the one in which you were raised. Most people go to colleges or universities within their own state, and often those which are simply those closest to their hometowns. In the end, most of us live in a bubble. In most cases, we are willing to acknowledge that and endeavor to accommodate others. Nevertheless, for some reason, there's this crazy notion within political rhetoric about who the truer Scotsman is. The question is what our next generation of leaders will do with this situation: whether we embrace the diversity of our backgrounds and humbly forge our shared future, or whether we continue to proclaim ourselves kings upon our molehills and decree royal judgment over the kingdoms of our countrymen.