American Politics the 2016 edition

TeleStrat wrote: micky wrote: If you update this chart to 2016 the gap would be much wider. The current election cycle alone has widened the gap and the results of the election will further the divide regardless of who wins.

no doubt.. Just think of all the kiddies dumped into the system that were rabid Bernie bots..  The Democratic median will just continue to shift left. I'll be curious to see how much the Republican continues to shift right.. one can only go so far before one starts goosestepping.. burning books and putting Hispanics and Muslims into camps... though I have faith in my friends in the right that they'll leave no stone unturned in their chase to get out the missing white neo-facist vote...


Edited by micky - October 16 2016 at 14:18

A Person wrote: micky wrote: putting Hispanics and Muslims into camps. We already have labor camps for minorities, we just call them prisons.

I didn't mention blacks... the GOP had a 50 year head start on them on trying to remove them from white America ....

A Person wrote: And both parties still uphold systemic racism.

funny that blacks don't see it that way...  inability to change is not the same as upholding or promoting the unfortunate standards

A Person wrote: micky wrote: A Person wrote: And both parties still uphold systemic racism. funny that blacks don't see it that way...  inability to change is not the same as upholding or promoting the unfortunate standards Who doesn't see it that way? I can assure you the people I have talked to do.

I'll take my 30 odd years living and working with blacks over a few of your friends... who probably to be blunt are as ignorant of the way the world is as you sound to be my friend.

let me amend...  rational thinking blacks that understand the systematic racism.. was built over  150 years... which took 100 years just to vote without restrictions (though don't forget your ID and Birth Certificate and 1st born child if you live in a GOP held state )

those blacks.. that turn oiut 90-10 to vote Democratic know it is a slow process.. you don't change 150 years of racism.. in 4 years.. or 8.  So yeah.. tell me that blacks blame Democrats for systematic racism. Perhaps they wish it could be addressed quicker.. but unfortunately we haven't managed to line up a against the wall all the bigots and racists.. and their supporters and shoot them


Edited by micky - October 16 2016 at 15:38

  and when was that written  man... 1963


the game changed in 1965..

I think personally it is the delusion born of idealism myself... sure politics as usual could change.. but like many of our deeply rooted problems... it might take generation of concerted effort to eradicate.

I haven't read that... I'll put that on the read list...

and as far as Johnson...make it two things you should give him credit for.. perhaps this one was even more important than the voting rights act in charting the future course of this country.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/immigration-1965-law-donald-trump-gop-214179

I'll repeat.. it took 100 years to gain the the right to vote....  I wish changes would happen overnight. However if you are half as educated on the subject as I hope you are.. and best be if you are are going to swim with the sharks... the problems affecting the black population are deeply rooted are largely systemmatic and in no small part also self inflicted....and will take many years to fully address.  What doesn't help is one party.. and fully 40% of the population could care LESS about them because ..well.. you know....

Look how long it took to change hearts and minds to gays getting simple basic rights we take for granted..  you think the socio economic problems of the black community can be changed overnight. Come on man.. it would be a tough battle even if one of the two major parties who thinks suppressing black vote out of political expediency is acceptable wasn't a barrier to improving education, opportunities and of course ...  having a national discussion and redress of the militarization of the police forces and their targeting of blacks.

Much has been made about the, absolutely true, gap growing in politics. However, I think it's largely been because of the Republican's rightward drift. They used to (the mainstream) support New Deal policies, many were supportive of civil rights. 

Edited by JJLehto - October 17 2016 at 23:33

^Talk about a party who gives three f**ks about the future of their country, the same people who masturbate to army uniforms and call themselves patriotic for wearing the US flag in their underwear. This same people want a Supreme Court perennially short one person. 

ahhh... 3 weeks to go... just placed my order for a kilo of coke.. a case of Jack... a bevy of blond strippers with collective IQ only slightly higher than the average Trump supporter.. .and of course .. a couple of muscular meatheads for Raff so that she can drink champagne dripping off their bulging biceps...

so the McPredictions...

1)  Clinton wins.  no sh*t.. but how much.  I've seen some chatter that current polls are not underselling Trump.. but are underselling Clinton..   Makes some sense... then there is the large.. much larger than in normal years undecided vote.  Rational thought would indicate most will break for Clinton.  Those that hate her.. and/or love him are already cooked into the polls. That is why he has the ceiling he has.. he is not likely to surpass it.  Figure given a choice between someone they don't like but at least will be politics as usual.. or someone they REALLY don't like.. who might (would haha) take the country off the cliff.. my money is that 2/3'rds of the undecided break Clinton.

So my prediction...

http://www.270towin.com/maps/3n8VN

Clinton does pass 400 and does take Texas...  it is close already.. do think my talking points are whey she takes it.. narrowly but does... also registering the first double digit popular vote win we've had since 1984..  ancient times and a different country ago.... in terms of the hyper partisan tribal country we've become.


2) Senate... Democrats end up with 52 seats and control

3) the House?  Hard to say.. we have seen some wild swings in the last few years so it is not impossible.. nor even improbable considering the state of politics 2016 and the idiocy of the last Congress. However I think Trump needs at least one more bad news cycle for the down ballot disaster to swing the house. I think they hold on to it.. very narrowly... and likely to fully swing back to the Democrats in 2018.. as the Senate goes back to the Republicans (chock out the docket for the 2018 midterm elections.. brutal)




Edited by micky - October 18 2016 at 16:25