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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 04:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 06:48
should have given it to Jon Anderson... LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 09:03
Honestly wouldn't mind if it had gone to MF Doom.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 09:08
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

should have given it to Jon Anderson... LOL


They were considering him but the judges fell asleep while listening to Tales From Topographic Oceans. The first thing they heard after waking up was Dylan and, obviously, his lyrics sounded like the summit of high art in comparison so that's when they decided to award him the Nobel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 09:09
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

I dunno, Tom Waits, Paul Simon, David Bowie (dead), Lou Reed (dead), Bruce Springsteen even.

Awarding someone like Leonard Cohen or Patti Smith who are as much as poets as a songwriters would probably have made more sense and caused less of a stir.

Tom Waits winning the Nobel for literature wouldn't bother me at all tbh
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 09:22
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

I dunno, Tom Waits, Paul Simon, David Bowie (dead), Lou Reed (dead), Bruce Springsteen even.

Awarding someone like Leonard Cohen or Patti Smith who are as much as poets as a songwriters would probably have made more sense and caused less of a stir.

Everyone of the performers you noted would point to Dylan for their primary poetic inspiration. In fact, Cohen commented that giving Dylan the Nobel equates to "pinning a medal on Everest", Simon said, "I'm trying to remember if there is anyone else besides Bob Dylan who could have influenced me, but I really can't imagine that there was," Waits said "Before epic tales and poems were ever written down, they migrated on the winds of the human voice and no voice is greater than Dylan's", and Springsteen commented that "Bob Dylan is the father of my country." Patti Smith has written poems about Bob Dylan, Bowie has covered Dylan's work, and Lou Reed was such a prick that he would never admit his debt.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 09:37
Of course we should also remind people that the Nobel is not supposed to be an American prize.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 09:44
Have Haruki Murakami won it yet?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 09:48
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:19
Popular music featured real lyrics long before Dylan. Like for as long as music has been around.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:21
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Popular music featured real lyrics long before Dylan. Like for as long as music has been around.
Yes, but not on platinum albums. Frank Sinatra didn't start singing protest songs because he heard a Woody Guthrie 78 rpm LP.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:22
Damn now it turns out Dylan is basically the basis for all western popular rock music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:35
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Damn now it turns out Dylan is basically the basis for all western popular rock music.

That's a pretty shallow reply. I don't believe I said that; however, I will suggest that very few artists affected popular music, and rock in particular, in such a manner. Although you might not like Dylan, perhaps you might like someone from a list of international artists that covered Dylan tunes (there are several prog and prog-related performers on the list):



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:44
coca cola won he nobel price in chemisry
l ron hubbard won the nobel price in physics
and ozzy osborn won the nobel price in mediscine, 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:44
Bob Dylan took up the mantle of Woody Guthrie. You all can complain about Dylan winning but obviously the people who hand out the award saw a deserving voice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:47
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Bob Dylan took up the mantle of Woody Guthrie. You all can complain about Dylan winning but obviously the people who hand out the award saw a deserving voice.
Pete Seeger was also a strong quality lyracist

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:48
Even both your replies mostly talk about his influence in rock music. Rock music. Not literature. Not the art of writing. But rock music (and Dylan's certainly needs to be called that because just as plain music is quite poor). Dylan may have influenced all popular folk rock artists ever if you want, this award is still a literature one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:55
Nora Ephron once asked Bob Dylan whether he considered himself a poet, by which she meant if he thought his words could "stand without the music." Dylan responded, "They would stand, but I don't read them. I'd rather sing them." Clearly, he's not alone: On Thursday, we learned that Dylan had won the 2016 Nobel Prize in literature, "for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition." In other words, Dylan won for being a poet who happens to sing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 10:57
i remember being given Dylan song the Hurricane in an English class, ass a piece of litterature to analyze, and also the class saw the movie the Hurricane, the lyrics of Hurricane qualified as litterature for that purpose of being part of a curriculum, but so is Eminem, and Lady Gaga Confused




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2016 at 11:25
for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition. Nobody mentioned Latin America.
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