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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2016 at 12:27
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Perhaps the question should be: Is the earth better off without the universe. Makes just as much sense as the OP's question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2016 at 12:34
How the earth influences the universe?

We're insignificant in universal terms.

We make no difference in the universe, except because as far as we know,  we're the only intelligent life form we can affect.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2016 at 12:36
Yes.

It's time to strike the match and watch earth combust.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2016 at 12:36
How do you know we are insignificant in universal terms?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2016 at 13:04
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Perhaps the question should be: Is the earth better off without the universe. Makes just as much sense as the OP's question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2016 at 13:20
"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2016 at 13:21
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Perhaps the question should be: Is the earth better off without the universe. Makes just as much sense as the OP's question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2016 at 01:25
^ you really should be careful about accepting sweeties from strange men. Stern Smile

Most of this boils down to the question of whether the inhabitants of Earth can change the fabric of the Ooniverse or not, and the answer to that is we just don't know and it is uncertain that we ever will know. While I doubt that our smartest and brightest will ever be capable of coming anywhere close to understanding what actually makes the Ooniverse tick let alone affecting it, I also doubt that we are the pinnacle of sentient evolution. Mankind (in one form or another) has only been on this planet for 200,000 years of its 4.6 billion year existence, most of our 'accomplishments' have happened in the last 4,500 years and recorded history barely stretches back 2,000 years yet most of us struggle to remember what we had for diner last week and no one can fabricate a cell-phone from the pile of sand and minerals it is composed of. In evolutionary terms we're not that different from our ape ancestors who took great pleasure in flinging poo at each other (in that respect we've hardly evolved at all), so in spite of all we've achieved that we think makes us special we are a primitive lifeform with a lot to learn and a hell of lot more evolving to do. Then there is no reason to expect that the sentient lifeforms that evolves on Earth in the next 4.5 billion years before the lights go out will be descended from man, or even be mammalian, or carbon-based - perhaps one of them will be smart enough to work it all out and then be smart enough to appreciate that just because you can do something doesn't mean that you must. Big smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2016 at 01:35
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

What an absolutely meaningless question.........and the correct answer is it doesn't matter.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2016 at 03:43
How could the universe be better off without Pink Floyd, Marillion, Hawkwind, Queen, etc

seriously there still is no evidence whatsoever of any other civilisations anywhere else in the Galaxy and quantum physics does suggest that  the Universe needs an intelligent observer in order to exist so therefore it must produce intelligent life. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:08
Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

How could the universe be better off without Pink Floyd, Marillion, Hawkwind, Queen, etc

seriously there still is no evidence whatsoever of any other civilisations anywhere else in the Galaxy and quantum physics does suggest that  the Universe needs an intelligent observer in order to exist so therefore it must produce intelligent life. 


I'm not sure quantum physics say such a thing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 03:24
Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam."


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 05:39
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Originally posted by Cambus741 Cambus741 wrote:

How could the universe be better off without Pink Floyd, Marillion, Hawkwind, Queen, etc

seriously there still is no evidence whatsoever of any other civilisations anywhere else in the Galaxy and quantum physics does suggest that  the Universe needs an intelligent observer in order to exist so therefore it must produce intelligent life. 


I'm not sure quantum physics say such a thing.

Quantum physics............. or how about a Higgs Boson

The Higgs Boson walks into a church. The Priest says, "we don't allow Higgs Bosons' in here. The Higgs Boson says "But without me how can you have mass?" Cool
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 10:52
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

How do you know we are insignificant in universal terms?

Well, simply a matter of distance.

Our solar system is one of 200 million only in our galaxy

We haven't even reached the closest planet and most likely we won't be going outside our solar system in centuries (Except for some probes).

So...What's the effect we can create in universal terms?

Insignificant.
            
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 11:36
Ivan it is okay to say you really do not know
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 11:54
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2016 at 12:30
Why not?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2016 at 12:28
The universe is to dumb to know we own it. It should keep its mouth shut. Have you seen its ratings?Sad. Pathetic.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2017 at 15:47
"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2017 at 16:50
With Trump in control, I think so..................
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