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Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
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Posted: September 10 2016 at 14:33
timothy leary wrote:
About 15 mpg from a 4 cylinder 3 litre engine and a top speed of 45 mph an 15 million produced ... it's difficult to think of single model that's done more harm to the environment.
Joined: February 04 2016
Location: Aust
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Points: 1802
Posted: September 10 2016 at 15:29
noni wrote:
I suppose the ribbons make the car go faster!...
A few People have asked about the ribbon's - the picture is from earlier this year just prior to me buying the car when it was used by the previous owner as a wedding car!!!!
Who would have guessed that one ?
"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
Joined: February 04 2016
Location: Aust
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Points: 1802
Posted: September 10 2016 at 15:44
Dean wrote:
Now-a-days we tend to forget just how bad British cars of the 1960s and 1970s were for rust because those that have survived from that era are either well looked after or completely renovated from scratch - my current (albeit German-built) car is 15 years old and doesn't have a single scrap of rust on it and even my previous British car (MG-TF) was of a similar vintage and completely rust free (in spite of being made of the thinnest steel possible) - this would have been unprecedented in 1966 or 1976.
My dad bought a Hillman Imp in 1972, even though it was less than ten years old at the time it was essentially a rust-bucket held together by a thin layer of paint and the alloy engine hadn't been looked after so needed to be stripped down and rebuilt before it could be put back on the road. My dislike of working on cars stems from this car as most of my evenings and weekends were spent standing around in the cold passing my dad spanners ('No, ½-inch Whitworth not AF you clot!'). When it was finished very little of the car was original and what started out as a cheap buy ended up costing far more than expected.
In retrospect the Imp was an innovative and revolutionary design (more so than the BMC Mini) but sadly not one that the Rootes Group were capable of making well despite building a purposely designed factory in Scotland for it. The Clydeside workforce that had spent a lifetime building massive ships didn't adapt well to making small cars and their understanding of corrosion and anti-corrosion methods based on thick steel plate used to construct ocean-going ships didn't work on the thinner steel sheets used in car construction (which was also the fate of the Hunter whose body panels were fabricated there later, including the parts they sent out to Australia to make the Safari). The Rootes Group were referred to as the Rust Group back then for good reason (even after they were bought-out by Chrysler).
Like the music of that time, nostalgia is a wonderful thing but that's because we remember it for what has survived and not for all the rubbish that didn't.
Just as well Aussie cars weren't exported much anywhere including the UK, my first car was a HQ Holden had a V8 (253CuInch) which was the nice part but I had to put so much bog in the car (was only 10 year old when I got it) that I resorted to plastic ice cream containers for reinforcement- and that's in a dry climate - I think that car came with rust as a selected option for dealer delivery............ pic below
the Hillman is pretty much rust free - and still wears it original paint and numbers plates has not been out of rego since 1969- think its been kept polished in a shed its whole life.
Edited by EddieRUKiddingVarese - September 10 2016 at 15:45
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