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chopper
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 04:41 |
maryes wrote:
In my humble opinion, although ABWH ( with the remarkable exception of "The Birg Dream" ) stayed far from my expectations ...the album have another problem ... the quality of sound is pitiful : Tony Levin / Bass and Stick is almost inaudible and Wakeman's Keyboards suffocates Howe's guitars ( it's enough listen the first track "Themes" ) ! |
True, but what really annoys me is Bruford's drum sounds. Let's just say its "of its time".
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Flight123
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 05:20 |
I agree with an earlier poster that this material was great live - AWBH were closer to Yes than the 90125 incarnation earlier in the decade.
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Mormegil
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 05:50 |
No. "New" music from the "old guard" was refreshing back in '89.
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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emigre80
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 06:56 |
twosteves wrote:
emigre80 wrote:
No. Next question. |
I'm Alive is so good---and so was the video mix of the song. |
I also like Brother of Mine, Birthright, Order of the Universe (it's a bit cheesy but a lot of fun) and Quartet (if you take out the incredibly foolish second part). I listen to both the studio and live ABWH albums a lot, actually. There are also a bunch of live videos on youtube, although I have to say everyone - and I do mean everyone - was obviously having a bad hair AND a bad clothes year, so be warned.
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Jeffro
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 08:00 |
I remember being excited about ABWH when first hearing about the project. Went out and bought it on cassette! Never could get into it. I think I, like others, thought erroneously that it would sound like early Yes. I have recently tried to get back into it and am having little success. Oh well, can't like everything I guess
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Manuel
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 08:14 |
I've always liked this album, regardless of the fact that it's always been compared to the rest of the classic yes catalog (something inevitable I guess). I love the music and the concept of reviving somehow the classic yes sound, away from the 80's Trebor Rabin's influence that yes was running on at the time.
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maryes
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 18:33 |
Edited by maryes - August 29 2016 at 18:34
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maryes
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 18:37 |
chopper wrote:
maryes wrote:
In my humble opinion, although ABWH ( with the remarkable exception of "The Birg Dream" ) stayed far from my expectations ...the album have another problem ... the quality of sound is pitiful : Tony Levin / Bass and Stick is almost inaudible and Wakeman's Keyboards suffocates Howe's guitars ( it's enough listen the first track "Themes" ) ! |
True, but what really annoys me is Bruford's drum sounds. Let's just say its "of its time".
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It's also true, I don't understand what the recording engineers thought when making this !!!
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Intruder
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 19:09 |
Wow! People have a much higher opinion of the AWBH album than when it came out. At the time, it was considered a travesty of near GTR proportions, another nail in the band's coffin......80s dreck dressed up as Yessongs. I bought a one dollar copy from the bins a while back and gave it a few spins and now I'd consider it one of the better post-Drama Yes albums. Not saying much, I know, but it's an album with a reputation that has improved over time.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Finnforest
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 20:35 |
Intruder wrote:
Wow! People have a much higher opinion of the AWBH album than when it came out. At the time, it was considered a travesty of near GTR proportions, another nail in the band's coffin......80s dreck dressed up as Yessongs. I bought a one dollar copy from the bins a while back and gave it a few spins and now I'd consider it one of the better post-Drama Yes albums. Not saying much, I know, but it's an album with a reputation that has improved over time. |
Yeah, I can stomach it much better now. At the time, the guys I know hated it....in fact it may have been one of those discs that sailed high over a local parking lot. I can still remember one of my friends launching Oldfield's "Earth Moving" airborn with disgust. We didn't do one star ratings then....it was more personal . Now we're a bit more diplomatic.
Edited by Finnforest - August 29 2016 at 20:36
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aglasshouse
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Posted: August 29 2016 at 22:56 |
It does seem like an album that given time would grow on you, but unfortunately for me that sort of epiphany hasn't come. I do love Brother of Mine and Birthright though. Those are on my must-listen Yes (related) list.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 00:29 |
It was a relatively fine offering of Prog as it existed in 1989. At the time, I was totally blown away by this album (except for Teakbois) - nowadays, I still admire it (think I'll give it a spin after The Moodies) but not as much as back then. And, get this - I enjoy Union a notch more !!! There, I said it, even with its dozen or so session keyboardists alone. .........just spinning ABWH now. Definitely has its Pop-music elements but still sounding really good. And for those who think Levin is buried in the mix - he sounds in fine form - just remove the cottonwool from your ears..... Birthright (my favourite tune from day one back in 1989) is superb. Kevin's (f**king iPod won't allow me to type Tony's surname...) Stick just growls during the intro......
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emigre80
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 07:00 |
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Finnforest
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 08:26 |
It certainly did afford a degree of cleansing release that clicking a star does not... We didn't do it all that often, usually we just sold the stuff we didn't like. But I can recall a few times when more drastic measures were employed.
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rushfan4
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 08:50 |
Sounds like micky's CD toss out the car window subsequently reviewed by the tires of multiple trucks and cars.
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Finnforest
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 08:55 |
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Sounds like micky's CD toss out the car window subsequently reviewed by the tires of multiple trucks and cars.
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Did that once or twice with CDs and cassettes, but it lacks the wondrous sound of satisfaction that only vinyl splattering on asphalt can provide.
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rushfan4
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 08:56 |
I am kind of imagining a session of skeet shooting.
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hieronymous
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 09:47 |
I really liked the album when it came out - haven't listened to it in years - the one thing I remember is that I used to wish that the "long lost - brother of mine" chorus was in 15 - one measure of 8 and one measure of 7 - just take out that one beat and it could have been pop-prog genius!
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miamiscot
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 14:40 |
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Finnforest
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Posted: August 30 2016 at 14:43 |
It's fun, isn't it? Did you get it up there pretty high?
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