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Atavachron 
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 Posted: August 20 2016 at 17:54 |
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^ The production? Really? The mix is one of their best, I think.
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Intruder
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Posted: August 20 2016 at 13:30 |
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I've tried and tried and tried with Tales, but the music and vocals sound too cluttered and at the same time the production and performances outside of Howe sound tired and flat. Plus, Bruford is gone.....nothing was the same after Bruford left. I do love some of the "passages" and think it could do with a "defattening", a more stripped down, organic replay. Maybe instead of an Anderson, Rabin, Wakeman tour, how about kicking Rabin to the curb and adding Howe, then run thru Tales again. I bet a leaner sound and a more inspired performance would bring those Tales tracks alive.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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emigre80
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 06:20 |
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So "Yes" is touring this one...really just Steve Howe, even Alan White was out when I saw them...but it is AMAZING.
They did Revealing and Ritual in their entirety and tossed in Leaves of Green the night I saw them
Just amazing...incredible...haunting....beautiful...exceptional.
Quite a treat.
Drama was good also and so were the classics they performed.
Howe looks like he weighs 95 pounds and is 80 years old but he is pretty spry. |
I saw them a few weeks ago, and was delighted with how strong this section of the concert was. The band played it very well indeed. Going again to see them in MI next week, really looking forward to it.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 04:33 |
chopper wrote:
DDPascalDD wrote:
Tales is indeed much more interesting compositionally. It just offers much more material than Close To The Edge (song) in one epic; too much to know by heart really! One can tell the form of CTTE, but not quite so with any of Tales, much more progressive and much less repetition. |
That shows how much I must have listened to it over the years - I know the whole thing from beginning to end!
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Wow!  I truly doubted if it was possible  should require quite some years of listening indeed!
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Cristi
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 04:26 |
I've never understood why some people dislike this album, I don't see anything wrong with it.
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chopper
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 04:20 |
DDPascalDD wrote:
Tales is indeed much more interesting compositionally. It just offers much more material than Close To The Edge (song) in one epic; too much to know by heart really! One can tell the form of CTTE, but not quite so with any of Tales, much more progressive and much less repetition. |
That shows how much I must have listened to it over the years - I know the whole thing from beginning to end!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 04:02 |
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I'm thinking - they sure crammed in ANY possible idea, albeit, however calculated, as to where the compositional ideas could go. It's not an easy listen by any stretch, but so rewarding. This album is priceless to me. And I love it.
Getting folks to dig this album is harder than getting folks to dig Meshuggah............
..............seriously.............
Edited by Tom Ozric - August 10 2016 at 04:04
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 03:50 |
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Tales is indeed much more interesting compositionally. It just offers much more material than Close To The Edge (song) in one epic; too much to know by heart really! One can tell the form of CTTE, but not quite so with any of Tales, much more progressive and much less repetition.
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 03:40 |
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I also think Tales is an awfully underrated album. Compositionally, to me, at lest, it is better than Close to the Edge, far more ambitious. Again, this is only my opinion, but, along with Fragile, it is probably my favorite Yes album. No offence to CTTE intended.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 03:23 |
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..........all I can say is : I love this album since 1987, just BRILLIANT. And to this day, always a total bliss to spin.
Really, so much easier to get into than dear Genesis' Lamb extravaganza. I just don't get why so many folks dislike this amazing album..............?
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Flight123
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Posted: August 10 2016 at 03:13 |
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Steve Howe did excerpts from 'The Ancient' when I saw his solo tour a few years ago.
This album keeps on giving - my favourite 'side' also shifts over the years...'The Remembering' is the current fave. Not many bands come close to matching the intricacy and range of this album...
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Crumple
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Posted: August 09 2016 at 14:30 |
So "Yes" is touring this one...really just Steve Howe, even Alan White was out when I saw them...but it is AMAZING.
They did Revealing and Ritual in their entirety and tossed in Leaves of Green the night I saw them
Just amazing...incredible...haunting....beautiful...exceptional.
Quite a treat.
Drama was good also and so were the classics they performed.
Howe looks like he weighs 95 pounds and is 80 years old but he is pretty spry.
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cstack3
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 11:38 |
Crumple wrote:
Gosh I've been listening for the first time - having always been a Yes fan but never having heard this album -
over the last few weeks played it all the way through probably 5 times.
Beautiful in parts, amazing in parts, yet meandering and incoherent in parts, it continues to reveal itself to me.
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Welcome! You are in good company. I listen to it frequently & am always amazed at what I hear upon repeated listenings.
For a guy who wasn't terribly into the work, Wakeman does some amazing things throughout! I love his use of 8-voice choir mellotron in "Revealing."
Squire's use of the fretless bass on "Remembering" evokes a tympani. Remarkable.
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Posted: June 26 2014 at 10:45 |
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Gosh I've been listening for the first time - having always been a Yes fan but never having heard this album -
over the last few weeks played it all the way through probably 5 times.
Beautiful in parts, amazing in parts, yet meandering and incoherent in parts, it continues to reveal itself to me.
I like it.
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progbethyname
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Posted: February 10 2014 at 12:21 |
Chris S wrote:
Need to sit down and listen to the whole album in it's entirety again....it has been too long
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And then you will get the love that just keeps on giving from the mighty Tales.
A true classic and I feel I will do the same as you. Good call.
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 04:50 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
^ That's about how I'd rate them both. Never ever grimaced from the instant I heard them. They could be included here under Prog Related, coz they are !!  |
Definitely 
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 03:49 |
^ That's about how I'd rate them both. Never ever grimaced from the instant I heard them. They could be included here under Prog Related, coz they are !!
Edited by Tom Ozric - February 08 2014 at 03:51
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 03:46 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Love for both Buggles albums here, too !! Nuttin' wrong with 'em.....
.....Astroboy......Miss Robot......Kid Dynamo.....Vermillion Sands......Rainbow Warrior.....etc. etc. etc. |
Good to hear another Buggles lover  And the albums have a fabulous production too. Adventures in modern recording indeed. Not that it's proof, but both Buggles albums get a decent rating on Allmusic.com too (4 1/2 stars for The Age Of Plastic, 4 stars for Adventures In Modern Recording)
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 03:38 |
Love for both Buggles albums here, too !! Nuttin' wrong with 'em.....
.....Astroboy......Miss Robot......Kid Dynamo.....Vermillion Sands......Rainbow Warrior.....etc. etc. etc.
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Chris S
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Posted: February 08 2014 at 02:44 |
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Need to sit down and listen to the whole album in it's entirety again....it has been too long
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