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Points: 143 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 02:39
^ I don't listen to Yes for the vocals, that's kinda the low point of the band, Jon's vocals are an acquired taste. The guitar work, rhythm section and keys are what make them interesting and worth it.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^You're not alone there.
I do enjoy Yes but Jon's vocals are usually what makes me go 'feck it...enough is enough!' and then reach for something with a little more....erm..balls.
He is great on Lizard as Prince Rubert, but then again he doesn't outstay his welcome.
 
Ditto, love Yes but Jon....Nooooo!
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Points: 2223 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 07:49
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

I absolutely adore The Ladder.
 
oh, me too!  I think that we are the only two on this site that share that opinion.
No, there's three of us. Handshake
Still a minority but at least now we rise to the level of a faction.  If we could find two more, we might even become a tribe.LOL
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Points: 2223 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 07:52
Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

^ I don't listen to Yes for the vocals, that's kinda the low point of the band, Jon's vocals are an acquired taste. The guitar work, rhythm section and keys are what make them interesting and worth it.
 
I found his vocals in the 1990s and 2000s much more expressive. The difference between the singing on Tales and Relayer and the vocals on the 2001 versions of Ritual and Gates of Delirium is astonishingly large.  Frankly, on the original GOD, he sounds kind of mechanical, whereas when he sang it for the Symphonic concert he sounded much more melodic and emotional. 
 
That's one of the reasons I prefer the live 2000s albums like Symphonic and Live at Montreux to the original albums these days.
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Two songs on Loggins and Messina's live On Stage album, Angry Eyes and Vahevala, have extended sections of musical experimentation that lend themselves to a somewhat proggy sound. Rather enjoyable and highly recommended.
"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Two songs on Loggins and Messina's live On Stage album, Angry Eyes and Vahevala, have extended sections of musical experimentation that lend themselves to a somewhat proggy sound. Rather enjoyable and highly recommended.
 
"Angry Eyes" is just an awesome jazz-rock trip to begin with. For me it's the #1 classic "song you love by a band you don't otherwise care for." And yes, that extended live version is terrific. I'll have to check out the live version of "Vahevala" now. I vaguely know the song itself but all I can remember is the "Vahevala, homeward sail away" refrain.
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Points: 4812 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 14:02
The in-a-row combo of Clock Out, Timing X, and Wiggly World off Devo's Duty Now for the Future always seemed to me an homage to the sounds of Keith Emerson/ELP.
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Points: 209 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 14:36
Originally posted by gerunding gerunding wrote:

Io Sono Murple is sonically more hilarious than Pokey the Penguin.
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This is the only place in my life where my musical tastes are considered conservative and unadventurous.
More heavy prog, please!
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^I remember when returning from a year abroad in England to my college in upstate New York, I brought along some albums I had purchased when abroad.  The student in the room next to me came by one day and said (after listening to what I was playing) "You have such unusual taste in music!"
 
I was listening to the Police's Regatta de Blanc.
 
I guess it's all a matter of context.


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Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

^I remember when returning from a year abroad in England to my college in upstate New York, I brought along some albums I had purchased when abroad.  The student in the room next to me came by one day and said (after listening to what I was playing) "You have such unusual taste in music!"
 
I was listening to the Police's Regatta de Blanc.
 
I guess it's all a matter of context.

LOLLOLLOL  Pretty obscure stuff there.
More heavy prog, please!
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Points: 2223 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 19:01
Originally posted by twalsh twalsh wrote:

Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

^I remember when returning from a year abroad in England to my college in upstate New York, I brought along some albums I had purchased when abroad.  The student in the room next to me came by one day and said (after listening to what I was playing) "You have such unusual taste in music!"
 
I was listening to the Police's Regatta de Blanc.
 
I guess it's all a matter of context.

LOLLOLLOL  Pretty obscure stuff there.
 
Oh, I would never listen to anything mainstream.
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Points: 3167 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 09:37
Some days I feel like the best album from the 70's is "Melos" by Cervello, and other days I feel like it is Darwin by Banco.

I get angry at people who "can't stand screams/growls/screeching"
http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/



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Points: 3635 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 09:50
I think Neal Morse's solo albums are way better than anything Spock's Beard ever did.
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Points: 7024 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 15:39
OK! 10 to get started with:

1) Robert Fripp is absurdly overrated as a guitarist.
2) Prog does not constantly have to progress: the original term was simply coined to describe non-commercial (ie not chart) music with a high level of musicianship.
3) At least as much good prog has been made since 1983 (the birth of neo-prog) as was made up to that time.
4) Neo-prog is not a separate genre.
5) Jon Anderson has one of the most annoying voices in prog.
6) James Labrie has the other.
7) Dream Theater are instrumentally the most gifted band around but lack any compositional skill whatsoever.
8) Genesis from And Then There Were Three onwards would be quite enjoyable if you hadn't heard anything before that.
9) Ian Anderson is a pretty terrible flute player.
10) Geddy Lee of Rush and Burke Shelley of Budgie are actually the same person.
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Points: 17454 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 16:03
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Good stuff Herc!  LOLClap
...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Points: 1774 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 17:24
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:


1) Robert Fripp is absurdly overrated as a guitarist.


YES Clap
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Points: 65765 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 17:54
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

10) Geddy Lee of Rush and Burke Shelley of Budgie are actually the same person.

I used to think the same thing about Charlie Rose and Tony Brown.  I still do.
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Points: 46838 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 20:01
oh how interesting... hmmmm

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

OK! 10 to get started with:

1) Robert Fripp is absurdly overrated as a guitarist.
only if one tried to put him onto a shelve I've seen little of.. a great guitarist.. in a genre filled with them. Nothing more.. nothing less.  Didn't I read an interview once where he said he thought Greg Lake was a better guitarist than him.. so what does that make Lake? LOL
2) Prog does not constantly have to progress: the original term was simply coined to describe non-commercial (ie not chart) music with a high level of musicianship.

bullsh*t...  it was called progressive music.. heard it one time ..heard it 1000 times on 70's era decriptions of that music.. that scene. Some PR dude probably cooked up PROG as a nice easy tag for lumping together all kinds of dissimilar bands and music for the purpose of dividing audiences to make it easier to market to them. LOL  and you are missing the boat if you don't realize there are two different things at play here today. Prog rock the genre.. music as progressive as Celine Dion.. yet touching all the stylistic norms.. that make prog prog. There there is the modern progressive rock scene. Some get lumped in with rock.. some have progressed far past even a lazy lumping.. music that is progressive in nature. Perhaps touching enough stations to be lumped in with prog.. some more far out that even prog fan won't touch it.
3) At least as much good prog has been made since 1983 (the birth of neo-prog) as was made up to that time.

Clap but none of it by groups considered to be Neo. LOL
4) Neo-prog is not a separate genre.

agreed... just file under Genesis clones and talent challenged...
5) Peter Hammill has one of the most annoying voices in prog.
hahha
6) James Labrie has the other.
amen brother!!!
7) Dream Theater are instrumentally the most gifted band cpllections of instrumentalist around but lack any compositional skill whatsoever.

corrected for you man
8) Genesis from And Then There Were Three onwards would be quite enjoyable if you hadn't heard anything before that.
says about 1% of the worlds population. bullsh*t...  far better, far more interesting pop music than prog. Like that is a crime or something to be ashamed of.  Hey some bands just didn't have the chops or the talent to make it as prog bands. No harm in admitting it.  Good pop is better than boring prog anyway...
9) Ian Anderson is a pretty terrible flute player.
AMEN BROTHER!!! Why else did he have to strike the pose... to get people not focusing on his playing...
10) Geddy Lee of Rush and Burke Shelley of Budgie are actually the same person.

who???



hah....
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Points: 7872 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2016 at 20:36
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

OK! 10 to get started with:

1) Robert Fripp is absurdly overrated as a guitarist.
2) Prog does not constantly have to progress: the original term was simply coined to describe non-commercial (ie not chart) music with a high level of musicianship.
3) At least as much good prog has been made since 1983 (the birth of neo-prog) as was made up to that time.
4) Neo-prog is not a separate genre.
5) Jon Anderson has one of the most annoying voices in prog.
6) James Labrie has the other.
7) Dream Theater are instrumentally the most gifted band around but lack any compositional skill whatsoever.
8) Genesis from And Then There Were Three onwards would be quite enjoyable if you hadn't heard anything before that.
9) Ian Anderson is a pretty terrible flute player.
10) Geddy Lee of Rush and Burke Shelley of Budgie are actually the same person.



This is hilarious.
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