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Atavachron
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Posted: May 17 2016 at 03:43 |
This thread has gotten me wanting spin 'em. Tremendous band, much respect.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Flight123
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Location: Sohar, Oman
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Posted: May 17 2016 at 03:40 |
Not at all! It's good to hear from fellow Cow fans - there's not that many of us!!
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ALotOfBottle
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Location: Lublin, Poland
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 11:31 |
Okay, edited  Man, I feel so bad. I am a Henry Cow fan and I made such a terrible mistake. What a disgrace...
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 11:27 |
Dang, when writing the review on Concerts, I totally forgot that there was also a track "Ruins" on Unrest when writing that it was originally less than 3-minutes long. That is true, but with "Ruins" on the next album. And the "Ruins" from Concerts did seem a bit odd in comparison to the In Praiser"Ruins".
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Tom Ozric
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Location: Olympus Mons
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 09:58 |
^ Nine Funerals.....on side 3 ??? Still haven't picked that..... Got Tim's organ section of LITHOTB somewhere on side 4......... Very difficult and challenging where improv is concerned. Also, there's many bands doing this Cow complex improv styling since LegEnd. Really, they (the few I have) pale in comparison to HC. No one will come up to their kneecaps.......... Currently spinning Unrest - Greaves' piano is fading on Half Asleep..... Now Ruins has kicked in..... See ya'
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Flight123
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 08:52 |
I can remember buying 'Concerts' straight out of the box the day it was released in 76! Showing my age again... As Tom points out, the more 'difficult' sides 3 and 4 repay careful listening (spot the tape of 'Nine Funerals...' in 'Oslo')
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 08:47 |
^ Wish Dave played some of his blowing Fuzz-Hammond solos there............ I did give an attentive listen to Concerts, and it was amazing. It has been quite a few years since I spun the entire thing, usually just side 1 and I'm done. Side 2 with Wyatt and Riding Hood and Ruins is pretty cool, the 3rd side of 29 minutes of improv (with Dagmar sounding like she's being murdered about half-way through) is O.K., Side 4 is quite superb and exciting, even having a section of .....Heart Of The Beast somewhere there. Tim's organ just blows - actually, lots of his organ throughout, more than I remember. I'm sure he distorts and fuzzes it beyond recognition - just when you think it's not an organ, Frith comes in with a distinctive lead that makes those odd sounds as coming from Tim. That's it, I was about to listen to Yes, now it's gonna be Unrest. Cancel all my previous posts on various threads...........
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Flight123
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 08:35 |
I also suggest you look at this:
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/henry-cow-the-40th-anniversary-henry-cow-box-set-by-john-kelman.php
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 08:32 |
Yassss! I finally found all ten volumes of The Road on the internetz. And boy, is it a long listen!  So far, I have listened to the first two discs and it seems far more interesting than Concerts. Anyway, I'm glad I was able to find the album online instead of spending 70 bucks for each boxset without knowing what it is. I will try to write a review of Volumes 1-5 this weekend if I manage to listen to the whole. So far, the first disc was outstanding. You get all of the nice flavors from the first album with some newer elements. There is even Dave Stewart's talking there somewhere! Anyway, a great listen!
Edited by ALotOfBottle - August 26 2017 at 03:05
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Categories strain, crack and sometimes break, under their burden - step out of the space provided.
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Flight123
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 08:23 |
Well, that's music for you. As a teenager, the Cow taught me to listen far beyond the confines of prog.
A lot of the ex-Cow members still seem to be active internationally - chances are Cutler, or Frith especially, may visit down under one day. Even Magma have made it over there!
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 08:19 |
^ Man, it truly sux living 'Down Under'. We really are the ass-end of the world somewhat..... There are countless bands I listen to and just get right into (to name 2 extremes ; Kajagoogoo and Meshuggah, both mean a lot to me, and not just because.......) but there are a precious handful of bands that are in my heart and soul (2 more extremes ; Sade and Henry Cow). I can't explain why, it just 'is'..........
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Flight123
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 06:29 |
I do know how lucky I am to have seen this great band in their prime! Apart from my friends who went with me to the gigs in 77, I have only met one other person who has seen them live. At least, I got to see John Greaves with them at the Lindsay Cooper tribute gig as well.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 16 2016 at 02:55 |
^ You don't know how lucky you are !! ^^ Her understanding of ''cello obviously helped her with the bass - I don't even want to attempt 1/2 The Sky.........(but then, I'm an untrained, hopeless bassist.....)
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Flight123
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Posted: May 15 2016 at 11:13 |
Yes, she tuned it like her cello. Apparently Steve Beresford also auditioned at the same time but the band were impressed by her musical ability. It was great to see her live with the band - twice - but now retired from music for many years.
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: May 15 2016 at 10:50 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Thanks again !! I'm amazed that there's any footage of this phenomenal band at all. Watching Cutler flap his arms around every beat is fun - and they're bizarre beats too. Lindsay looks cute (as does Goergie). On a side - Georgie played 'cello in National Health (Squarer For Maud) and a sensational track off Bruford's Tornado album (Gothic 17). |
From what I can remember, when Georgie joined Henry Cow, she didn't have much experience with bass guitar at all! However, she learned the instrument quickly.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 15 2016 at 06:15 |
Thanks again !! I'm amazed that there's any footage of this phenomenal band at all. Watching Cutler flap his arms around every beat is fun  - and they're bizarre beats too. Lindsay looks cute (as does Goergie). On a side - Georgie played 'cello in National Health (Squarer For Maud) and a sensational track off Bruford's Tornado album (Gothic 17).
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: May 15 2016 at 05:42 |
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: May 15 2016 at 02:50 |
^ Uber-cool. Love the pic with Georgie on bass Thanks. Ooh, so Tim's decked his organ out with clouds, not flowers (like I thought.....)
Edited by Tom Ozric - May 15 2016 at 02:52
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ALotOfBottle
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Posted: May 15 2016 at 01:49 |
Flight123 wrote:
My 6th form band tried to imitate the Cow's stage setting with lamp shades, etc. Well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I am not sure all my band mates were quite with me! Pre-internet, one relied on the music press for information so the 2nd time I saw the Cow in 77, we were hugely disappointed to turn up at the venue to find Dagmar had retired from touring due to ill health. However, the concert was a belter but the only vocal track was 'Viva Pa Ubu'. Luckily, I got to see her again some 37 years later at the Lindsay Cooper tribute shows...!
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They don't have lamps here, but also a very cool stage setup.  Ooh, I've got one with lamps   This is the gatefold of Concerts, isn't it? Man, they were such cool people!
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Flight123
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Location: Sohar, Oman
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Posted: May 14 2016 at 11:04 |
My 6th form band tried to imitate the Cow's stage setting with lamp shades, etc. Well, they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I am not sure all my band mates were quite with me! Pre-internet, one relied on the music press for information so the 2nd time I saw the Cow in 77, we were hugely disappointed to turn up at the venue to find Dagmar had retired from touring due to ill health. However, the concert was a belter but the only vocal track was 'Viva Pa Ubu'. Luckily, I got to see her again some 37 years later at the Lindsay Cooper tribute shows...!
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