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Mascodagama
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 17:05 |
This is where I am. When I listen to Yes I try to forget the English language. At least on CTTE the lyrics are essentially meaningless on a literal level. It's when Jon Anderson makes his meaning quite clear that you really need to reach for the sick bag. Not coincidental that most of my favourite prog albums are instrumental or have lyrics in languages I don't understand. God spare me from having to listen to some halfwit's idea of profundity over the length of a "concept album".
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dr prog
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 16:04 |
Dark side is half boring
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Thatfabulousalien
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 15:59 |
Close to the Edge, by a lightyear
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Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.
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kenethlevine
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 15:47 |
not a big fan of either group, but I think CTTE is better than anything by Floyd
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 12:42 |
I just voted for Close to the Edge.
Neither one is probably my favorite by each band though. For Yes I think I prefer relayer(although it's probably close(no pun intended))and for Floyd I probably prefer wish you were here and maybe one or two others.
I actually kind of think CTTE is the new dark side of the moon. For years DSOTM was considered the bench mark the "big one" but these days CTTE seems to have gained a lot of fan and critical momentum and dare I even say it has a pretty strong cult following now.
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TexasKing
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Posted: January 07 2017 at 09:27 |
Close to the Edge, no brainer!
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Barbu
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Posted: April 20 2016 at 19:51 |
Dark Side, easily.
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dr prog
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Posted: April 20 2016 at 17:32 |
Close is cool and dark is overdramatic nonsense
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: April 20 2016 at 04:10 |
Its perfect. I "know" all the words that are outed but only isolated phrases such as: down at the end, round by the corner... & seasons will pass you by... sticks or stand out. Nothing wrong with that as long as: and rearrange your liver to the solid mental grace (actually I'm fine with that as well, but you know what I''m getting at) is merely the sound of the human voice.
I normally don't know the meaning of any lyrics (except a selected few by Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen and Roy Harper) including lyrics I claim to love. Pantagruel's Nativity, Hibou Anemone and Bear, Impressione di Settembre and Mother Sky all sound equally amazing and "deep" to me... well, if anything PFM has the advantage as I understand much less.
emigre80 wrote:
If you have ever listened to a Jon Anderson interview, you'd know that it is a foreign language to him too. |
Ha-ha - haven't but I'll take your word for it.
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: April 19 2016 at 23:21 |
Close to the Edge
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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micky
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Posted: April 19 2016 at 20:26 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
If you'd asked me ten years ago I would have said CTTE hands down, but these days I'm more 'in tune' with DSOTM. It works better with my frame of mind than the scatty pseudo intellectual gibberings of Anderson on CTTE, which currently just irritate me.
Sorry.. | To me english is a foreign language which is a great advantage when listening to Yes.
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interesting and excellent observation indeed... most lyricists suck.. especially prog ones. If I want to be intellectually stimulated I read a book, if I want to have songs to comiserate to.. I pull out some Willie or Waylon and howl at the moon and get sh*t faced. I listen to prog for the music man. I've found some of the prog I enjoy most is when I am not distracted.. or turned off by what the singer is trying to get across but simply enjoying the voice as an additional instrument and Yes and Anderson fit that as well as any group especially for English groups and native speakers. Who cares what he singing about..or even trying to make sense to it if there really is any to be made of it. His voice as as much a part of the music as Bruford's snare, Squire's Rick, or Howe's Gibson.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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emigre80
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Posted: April 19 2016 at 18:30 |
Saperlipopette! wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
If you'd asked me ten years ago I would have said CTTE hands down, but these days I'm more 'in tune' with DSOTM. It works better with my frame of mind than the scatty pseudo intellectual gibberings of Anderson on CTTE, which currently just irritate me.
Sorry.. | To me english is a foreign language which is a great advantage when listening to Yes.
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If you have ever listened to a Jon Anderson interview, you'd know that it is a foreign language to him too.
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Saperlipopette!
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Posted: April 19 2016 at 18:02 |
Blacksword wrote:
If you'd asked me ten years ago I would have said CTTE hands down, but these days I'm more 'in tune' with DSOTM. It works better with my frame of mind than the scatty pseudo intellectual gibberings of Anderson on CTTE, which currently just irritate me.
Sorry.. |
To me english is a foreign language which is a great advantage when listening to Yes.
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Rednight
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Posted: April 19 2016 at 17:40 |
Too hard to call, so pick it. And as much as I like CTTE, I've put it on to induce the occasional snooze me self.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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AEProgman
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 17:49 |
Going with my heart on this one and heading to the Moon. Although, if it was a desert island choice, I would have to include both!
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emigre80
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 14:44 |
DDPascalDD wrote:
I find musical complexity more important than if it fits my fictional deserted island schedule...
But I guess that's just me [;p] |
I'm with you on that. I was being sarcastic earlier.
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 14:18 |
I find musical complexity more important than if it fits my fictional deserted island schedule...
But I guess that's just me [;p]
Edited by DDPascalDD - April 18 2016 at 14:33
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emigre80
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 13:32 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
On a deserted island????? I would take the album that has more than 3 songs, that would get insanely boring after about 3 days. |
It doesn't matter how many songs there are on each album, they're both about 40 minutes long. And the songs on Close to The Edge have more variety within each track anyway. |
It does matter...I can listen to a few songs with PF in the morning, go harvest some coconuts and bananas for breakfast, listen to 2 more...take a nap in my tree house. Wake up and go fish for dinner, cook up some fish on the fire and listen to the final couple songs before bedtime.
Can't do that with CTTE.... |
Excellent point. I am switching my vote.
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Catcher10
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 12:45 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
On a deserted island????? I would take the album that has more than 3 songs, that would get insanely boring after about 3 days. |
It doesn't matter how many songs there are on each album, they're both about 40 minutes long. And the songs on Close to The Edge have more variety within each track anyway. |
It does matter...I can listen to a few songs with PF in the morning, go harvest some coconuts and bananas for breakfast, listen to 2 more...take a nap in my tree house. Wake up and go fish for dinner, cook up some fish on the fire and listen to the final couple songs before bedtime.
Can't do that with CTTE....
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DDPascalDD
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Posted: April 18 2016 at 08:33 |
This may not be a tie!
Edited by DDPascalDD - April 18 2016 at 08:34
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