Pink Floyd Appreciation Thread

Affek wrote: Yeah, Gilmour takes all the glory. I understand what Roger must've felt - he just wanted recognition. Dave got Ivor Novello Lifetime Contribution Award for... excellence in music writing, which is a laugh (during Waters' time in PF, he wrote TWO songs by himself), Q Award and is a Commander of British Empire, while Roger has literally nothing. And you say that Gilmour didn't get all the glory?

and those awards mean what? Glory?
I think that the fact that they still sell albums in the 21st century is all the glory they need.

@Tom, I agree with you. Pink Floyd without Roger Waters is like The Who without Keith Moon. You think that it's rather all right, but you can ceritanly feel that something is missing.

Yeah, Gilmour takes all the glory. I understand what Roger must've felt - he just wanted recognition. Dave got Ivor Novello Lifetime Contribution Award for... excellence in music writing, which is a laugh (during Waters' time in PF, he wrote TWO songs by himself), Q Award and is a Commander of British Empire, while Roger has literally nothing. And you say that Gilmour didn't get all the glory?

Edited by Affek - April 09 2016 at 14:19

Yeah, that's all that Internet is about. Endless arguing about the very same things. I think that Pink Floyd underwent drastic change in its sound after Roger had left. It became more, how should I put it, artifical, and that's something I don't like, not to mention my opinion on Gilmour himself - it's him who takes all the glory, while Roger is the one who did almost everything.

I've always felt like Gilmour-driven PF was a league lower than Waters-driven, not to mention Barrett era, as it's something completely different. Of course I've heard "Live in Gdańsk" version - I'm Polish and it was almost impossible to hear it a few years ago. The song had really heavy radio airplay. Though I didn't really feel like the song was something special - it is, in fact, just a... song. Dave just can't fight his nostalgia when it comes to "Fat Old Sun" and its opening bell section. He puts it almost everywhere and I'm really sick of it, and that's just one reason I don't like "High Hopes".

"High Hopes" as one of the best Pink Floyd songs? You've gotta be kidding me. Literally everything (maybe except "Wearing the Inside Out") on The Division Bell can't stand up to the stuff with Roger Waters. "Two Suns in a Sunset" was much better as a farewell song.

AZF wrote: I've noticed it's been ignored as "a series of disappointing instrumentals with one damp squib song at the end" but I've been really appreciating "The Endless River" today. Forgot how much I was obsessed with it the last couple of years. I don't feel cheated by the four long pieces chopped down into smaller sections. A couple of years on and I still don't feel I've finished listening to it. Or does that album jar and ruin your appreciation of Pink Floyd?

I also really love "The Endless River"... and I find it difficult for any real Pink Floyd fan to feel cheated about the album, since it was explained from the very beginning what the album was all about (the ambbient thing, mostly instrumental, material left unused from Division Bell)... actually, I was rather worried that it wouldn't turn out as good, but in the end Gilmour knew what he was doing (mostly). I do love most of the music on the album, and it's a really beautiful experience to listen to it whole without anything else to do (not easy to find the time to do that, though).

However, "Louder than Words" was indeed one of the disappointing aspects of the album. Not that it is a bad track, I actually do enjoy it... however, Pink Floyd had up until then left us with one of their very best songs as a swansong (High Hopes), and I would have liked them to be able to at least get close to it's greatness... however, now their swansong is a rather mediocre song that doesn't have much to be remembered about. The other most disapointing part of the album is the sax on Anisina... it's really not up to the stanard that Pink Floyd and Dick Parry have us used to... and I do wish Gilmour had been able to get Dick Parry play on it, for his absence is indeed noted, and I'm sure he would have been able to do much better on this song... his touch might be what the song needed to be good.

Dellinger wrote:   I remember something from Another Brick in the Wall 2... from an interview, I think with Gilmour, backed up by hearing the demo from the song. As far as I understand, the song as proposed by Waters was suposed to be only the sung part... once (only by the band). Then Gilmour came with the idea of adding the boys choir...

Edited by Modrigue - April 08 2016 at 02:25

Cristi wrote: I asked a question on the More thread but got no answer and it's bugging me cause something makes no sense to me about Pink Floyd song-writing credits. I keep reading on my PF cds and elsewhere about all the songs Roger wrote but on those songs there are guitar parts from Gilmour or keys from Wright and yet only Roger is credited to have written those songs. How does it work? Here are some examples: Cirrus Minor and Cymbaline on More (yet, a lot of keyboards, I don't believe Waters created that) Money (Gilmour guitar work?) Welcome to the Machine (keyboard work?) Sheep (the keyboard part, did roger come up with that?) The Wall (all that keyboard work, yet no co-writing credits for Wright, I know Ezrin had some contributions but Wright did not have any?)

David Gilmour to perform live solo show in Pompeii.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gilmour-returns-pompeii-111216334.html




Edited by rushfan4 - April 06 2016 at 16:40