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Points: 995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2016 at 14:39
Other excerpts from the same interview might do for a reply :

 Lake did his best to help his friend – “when you’re close you always hope tomorrow will be better” – but eventually he became “impossible” to work with. 

"Also, Keith got into substance abuse, which made it worse and the whole thing just spiralled."

Of course the reading of the interview itself is recommended...
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Points: 5482 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2016 at 15:04
From Rick Wakeman's web site:
 
"Keith and I always got on great and had tried on numerous occasions to produce an album together, but it never happened because of third parties interfering, which upset us both. We did jam together on a couple of occasions and knew we could have produced something quite special, but sadly that was never to be."
 
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Wakeman and Emerson together would create a lifetime's worth of eargasms.
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Points: 3627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2016 at 15:37
It's (seemingly) easy to generalise about depression but ultimately its baffling even to one's closest friends and work colleagues as every sufferer's experience is deeply personal and different. It locks you into a world and a mindset that even your closest friends and family can find extremely exasperating and difficult in keeping patience with. I (i'm sure like many who use this site) have suffered from depression and it when outside of it, its baffling to me.. ive also counselled and supported friends and family who have experienced it. Seeing the gradual loss of a physical faculty or the sudden shock of an major illness can trigger a wider, more profound, sense of ones mortality.

Woolly Wolstenholme, battled for years in a strong, dignified way against his depression and i'm sure it was the same for Keith. But knowing how it is and can be makes me want to reiterate the word 'dignified'.. the everyday struggle to retain your pride, keep your head up and face the world, particularly as a performer.

RIP Keith and a glass raised in Woolly's memory.

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Points: 18446 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2016 at 15:39
^You just about brought a tear to my eye. Well said. Clap
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Points: 13627 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2016 at 16:12
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

^You just about brought a tear to my eye. Well said. Clap


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I was listening to the classical radio station yesterday and they played Copland's Fanfare for the Common Man. I took it as unintentional tribute to Keith Emerson.
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I tried suicide many times since 7 YEARS OLD! My brain do not produce seratonin. That's quite hard, I live my life on medicine. Two days without some pills and I can't get off the bed. But if you talk to me personally, watch my sarcastic posts or listen to my music you will think I'm just a super happy guy with a weird kind of humor. That's why depression can only be seen by closest friends mostly. And still today, people don't believe in depression. In my case, it's a permanent lack of a certain hormone, but anyone could develop a strong depression. When I was young my father thought it was just a child's dissimulation. If my mother didn't treat me I would never reach today. 

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Tuesday night's Stephen Colbert had the LA Philharmonic on and they played Fanfare for the Common man, although there was no mention of Emerson I also thought it was a quite salute to my hero.
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Points: 27958 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2016 at 09:49

Emerson is my lifelong hero so it was a real blow to hear these news. Really not many like him and in my eyes on a par with the likes of Bowie , Hendrix, Moon etc .

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Just saw this from the Yes home page from Rick. Not to flog the proverbial horse.

Health wise I’m heading in the right direction which is great as the current working hours are very demanding. We have the band recordings coming up as well as the orchestra and choir to do and then it’s flat out to prepare for the O2.

Next month’s GORR will be very detailed and hopefully will be full of good news as this year has been seriously blighted with so many sad losses, none more so that losing my dear friend Keith Emerson in such tragic circumstances. It has made me realise that sometimes the pressure can truly get too much and often or not we as musicians have nowhere to turn. Having had both a mental and clinical breakdown, I do know where these dark places are, but I was lucky enough to be offered help. I wish this help had been available to Keith. It is an area that seriously needs addressing.

Please have a wonderful Easter.......with my restricted eating allowance I am allowed one miniature white chocolate egg...........and thanks for all who pledged for the album, we have reached our initial target but hope that the pledges continue to roll in to help produce this special dream of an 85 minute King Arthur!

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Points: 617 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2016 at 04:21
Finally got around to reading the Greg Lake interview in the Express.

I take the point some have made about it sounding a little like Greg just stood back and let Keith fall apart, but I think it'd be a bit much to expect Greg to reel out a blow-by-blow account of all of his and Keith's interactions; maybe Greg put a lot of effort into trying to help but it just never panned out.

The saying about how you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink applies doubly when you are talking about trying to help people with depression. You can go all-out to make sure that the help they need is available, but the uncomfortable truth is that unless they reach out and take that help, there will be no improvement - and there is no guarantee that the help they get will even work.

And, of course, there's the frustrating additional factor where it's in the very nature of depression to find it very difficult to accept help, and very difficult to hold out hope that the help you get will actually improve matters!

Having known someone who suffered from severe depression and eventually committed suicide, after exhausting every single angle of therapy (some of which left her with additional problems on top of the severe depression, none of which produced a lasting change), despite being surrounded by loving friends who only wanted the best for her, I want to reach out for the silver lining here: yes, depression took Keith's life. But if Greg's word is at all accurate, we're talking about a depression that Keith lived with for *forty years*. If it were that severe, surviving that long is an accomplishment in itself.
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Points: 4807 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2016 at 10:06
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Just saw this from the Yes home page from Rick. Not to flog the proverbial horse.

Health wise I’m heading in the right direction which is great as
the current working hours are very demanding. We have the band
recordings coming up as well as the orchestra and choir to do and then
it’s flat out to prepare for the O2.

Next month’s GORR will be very detailed and hopefully will be full
of good news as this year has been seriously blighted with so many sad
losses, none more so that losing my dear friend Keith Emerson in such
tragic circumstances. It has made me realise that sometimes the
pressure can truly get too much and often or not we as musicians have
nowhere to turn. Having had both a mental and clinical breakdown, I do
know where these dark places are, but I was lucky enough to be offered
help. I wish this help had been available to Keith. It is an area that
seriously needs addressing.


Please have a wonderful Easter.......with my restricted eating
allowance I am allowed one miniature white chocolate egg...........and
thanks for all who pledged for the album, we have reached our initial
target but hope that the pledges continue to roll in to help produce
this special dream of an 85 minute King Arthur!


Cheers,

   Ric

No horse flogged as you provided important words from probably Emerson's closest rival while he was at it in his heyday. Thanks for posting this as it offers more insight into why things happened as they did.
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Points: 254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2016 at 08:43
Very sad news about Keith, especially how it happened. Keith did so much to bring keyboards to the fore in Rock music, but let's not forget that the concept actually began with Billy Ritchie of Clouds. Something I didn't know till I read the obituaries was that Keith had a band called "3" - The original name of the band later called Clouds during their 'legendary' and influential Marquee performances in early 1967 was ......1-2-3...............echoes of the past?........Wish Keith hadn't left us like this.
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Points: 10 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2016 at 19:24
I'm just as big of a fan of Emerson in the Nice as I am a fan of his work in ELP.
Rock and roll heaven now has a top flight keyboard player!
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This has to be the longest condolence signing in the site's history.
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Points: 887 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2016 at 23:03
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

This has to be the longest condolence signing in the site's history.


It's fitting as he was unjustifiably attacked by so many for so long.  Unjustifiably means for no good reason.  If I could change the past, I would have written him fan letters trying to get him to drop out of the rock and roll world that he seemed to the end trying to please and just focus on scoring, not caring about performing.  He was looking for respect in the long places.  Some people can just say "screw it" and focus on where the real gold is.  We are all creatures of habit and habits are hard to change.   I personally have deconstructed rock enough to realize what I'm dealing with.....he wrote a lot of beautiful music that is now being played by orchestras and soloists....not needing bass, drums, guitar and vocals, and a cheap media establishment to push it. 
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progressive rock world as lost an iconic awesome legend from his work in the nice to his solo album he as left us with heavenly music to remember him by...R.I.P Keith 
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

This has to be the longest condolence signing in the site's history.



very fitting. He was, and only one close might be Fripp but even then he really wasn't even close in comparison, THE one person you can say was most responsible for prog rock.
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Points: 15916 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2016 at 02:42
Emerson, Wright AND Squire
See, Chris had a physical health issue with a not-so-positive outcome.
Keith had a psychological issue which had, at least, a 'thicker strand' of hope, had the appropriate support have been sought.
Floyd's Rick was a shock, no doubt, but again, one who was suffering ill health.
We all prepared ourselves (somewhat) for CS, HOWEVER, Keith's passing is an instant shock of the highest order.
Most of us never saw this *amazing* performer as showing any cracks, or sign of detachment. I never thought this would be how Keith was to 'make his exit' (so to speak). Then again, it was always Emmo's M.O. to thrill everybody in such a grand way...........
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In sort of a tribute to Keith, if you never have heard of Rachel Flowers she is an amazing keyboardist considering she is blind and sort of autistic since early childhood.  She loves the ELP classics and Keith befriended her.  In the YouTube clip below, Keith Emerson has let her try out some new modifications on his modular-moog before he did.  There is a brief 2 minute intro by Keith before you see her play.
 

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