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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: March 15 2016 at 11:30 |
I heard about it Friday afternoon. As the details came out my sadness only deepens. ELP gets the lion's share of the credit for getting me interested in classical music. I think that all the bashing the Keith and ELP often get are unwarranted.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: March 15 2016 at 12:14 |
Awful sad news. I'm glad I got to see them at High Voltage too. That was a good day! RIP Keith. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Big Kid Josie
Forum Groupie Joined: June 23 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Posted: March 15 2016 at 15:29 |
Boy, this one hits hard...I feel about ELP like a lot of you guys do about Genesis, Porcupine Tree, Dream Theatre, Le Orme or whatever your favorite prog band is. This news is just devastating. It's sad that Keith felt driven to such a tragic end by the fact that he felt he could no longer play keyboards up to the standard that he and his fans expected, per his girlfriend. In my opinion, ELP's first 6 albums (the debut, Pictures, Tarkus, Trilogy, Brain Salad, and Welcome Back) are freakin' landmarks of the prog genre. They helped to define for people what prog was, uniting classical with rock, developing the Moog sound, and showing that prog could be as entertaining and popular as blues-based hard rock (at least in the 70's). They constantly pushed the boundaries of what music could do. Emerson was one of, if not the best (and Keyboard magazine polls would argue he was the best), keyboard players in all of rock. Listen to Hoedown off of the Welcome Back live album and you'll be amazed at his speed and dexterity. When I replay some of their greatest works---Take A Pebble, Knife Edge, Tarkus, Pictures, Endless Enigma, Trilogy, Karn Evil 9, and Toccata---I am struck anew by just how damn good he was. Not to mention how ahead of his time he was, with the Nice and Ars Longa Vita Breva and Five Bridges. ELP caught a lot of crap from critics about being pretentious, etc...Man, we could use some pretentiousness like that on the music scene nowadays!
Love him or hate him, you cannot deny the man's talent as a composer, keyboardist and composer...RIP, Keith. Grab that heavenly organ and rip off a few solos with Jimi, Chris, and the boys...
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14072 |
Posted: March 15 2016 at 15:32 |
The first prog album I had as gift when I was 10 years old.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Son.of.Tiresias
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: March 15 2016 at 16:11 |
The grandeaur of Prog summarizes in "Brain Salad Surgery", one of Prog´s Cornerstones.
"Toccata" defines the power of Prog. Thanks Keith, you are the greatest
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b_olariu
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5532 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 04:14 |
R.I.P. Keith Emerson - one of the pioneers of prog and one of the most influential keybordist ever
The Tarkus of prog music |
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AZF
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 17 2012 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 1079 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 05:32 |
I thought I'd already posted in here. When I heard Keith was dead I initially thought it might be age related, but to lose his life to suicide really shocked me. I can't think what to add, but I have been listening over and over the ELP I've got. Damn, he could play!
So thank you Keith, really sorry it had to end like that. R.I.P.
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chopper
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20029 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 06:32 |
Indeed, and it has been said that part of the reason for Emerson's depression was the slating he had received from trolls criticising his recent performances. If this is true then it's very sad. It shouldn't be a surprise that he couldn't play at the speed he used to when he was younger (in the same way that Lake's voice isn't what it used to be) but we shouldn't criticise him for this. |
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VOTOMS
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 18 2013 Location: KOBAIA Status: Offline Points: 1420 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 06:58 |
i never understood whats wrong with tarkus side b. all catchy stuff.
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Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15916 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 07:09 |
Sorry, but criticism from various c**ts should be ignored, no matter how much a perfectionist one is. The nay-sayers can get f**ked. All I can say is that it's disappointing Keith took the easy way out (and an honestly most difficult choice to make.....) He cheated, and it's really sad......... Bet if the band talked about the possibility of future hardships back in the day he'd possibly have said 'that'll never happen to me, I won't let it'...... but who knows. This is too sad.
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Bob Greece
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Greece Status: Offline Points: 1823 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 07:11 |
This is terrible.
It's so hard to believe that he didn't realise how much people loved his music. It wouldn't matter if he'd never played another note, he'll always be a legend. Very sad. Edited by Bob Greece - March 16 2016 at 07:12 |
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HackettFan
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 09:51 |
Oh my gosh! Just seeing this. Been on the site, but I hadn't looked at the Prog Lounge for awhile. Devastating. We've lost a true virtuoso.
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A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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JD
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 10:37 |
Just saw this update.
A coroner's official says the death of keyboardist Keith Emerson, co-founder of the seminal progressive rock group Emerson, Lake and Palmer, has been ruled a suicide. Los Angeles coroner's spokesman Ed Winter said Tuesday the determination was made after an autopsy showed Emerson shot himself in the head. He says there were also signs the 71-year-old man had a heart condition. Emerson's body was found early Friday by his longtime partner. Authorities suspected Emerson shot himself but the determination did not become official until after the autopsy. |
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The.Crimson.King
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 11:11 |
Just saw Greg Lake quoted in an article on Ultimate Guitar. I would add to Greg's plea for anyone having depression symptoms to get help, that if you know someone who's showing signs of depression, don't wait for them to crash and burn, offer them your hand first. If someone around Keith would have been proactive, he could still be with us today.
Link here:
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Lake tells Express: "I have to be honest and say his death didn't come as a shock to me. "The situation with Keith didn't happen suddenly - it has been developed from as far back as[1977's] 'The Works Vol. 1' album. At that point I began to see things happening with Keith which didn't look or feel right." He added: "It's very difficult to describe what depression is. We all know what it looks like. People's moods become very black. But it's more complicated. It changes someone's personality. "He lived, in the end, this very lonely existence of someone who was deeply troubled. I saw someone who became increasingly confused, desperate and depressed." Asked to comment on Emerson's girlfriend's statement about how the musician was "tormented with worry" as a degenerative disease affected his playing ability, Lake noted: "I'm sure that was a component - but a lot of people are given bad news like that, and you don't take your life because of it. If anyone does have feelings of being so desperate that they think it's better off not to wake up tomorrow, please talk to somebody. The doctor, your friend, anybody. "Talk to them and tell them what state you're in. If Keith had taken that path, he might still be here today." Edited by The.Crimson.King - March 16 2016 at 11:16 |
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kenethlevine
Special Collaborator Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 8950 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 11:37 |
similar story with a very respected keyboard player Woolly Wolstenholme of Barclay James Harvest who took his life about 5 years ago after battling depression for decades. It's a disease and sometimes the sufferer succumbs to it. Very sad.
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JD
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 07 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 18446 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 12:02 |
God I don't want to turn this into a battle, but Greg's comments seem a little dismissive to me.
GL If Keith had taken that path, he might still be here today." Like it was Keith responsibility to take action. WRONG. GL " I saw someone who became increasingly confused, desperate and depressed." And did what exactly? Did he reach out, did he work with Keith's family or management team to start a dialogue, get him the help and support he needed? GL "but a lot of people are given bad news like that, and you don't take your life because of it" Again, misinformed or ignorant of the disease. I just wish people would open there eyes and minds to what depression is really about. 'nough said. |
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verslibre
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Posted: March 16 2016 at 12:22 |
Same here. Keith was part of a band that successfully put keyboards at the forefront of an aggressive rock trio — no guitarist necessary. Organ, piano, clavinet, Moog. Keith, Carl, Greg. There you go. Nothing vanilla about ELP. They were three of the best players, and Keith was the #1 guy for a lot of people when it came to keyboardists. This may shock a few of you (or not), but I like the Emerson, Lake & Powell album a lot, too. I always have. ELP, along with Tangerine Dream, convinced me early on that keyboards do work front-and-center in a rock context!
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verslibre
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Online Points: 17094 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 12:31 |
Son.of.Tiresias
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 23 2014 Location: Northern Hemisp Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 14:02 |
For me it came as a very big surprise as well. John Lees´ BJH Live Shepherds Bush, 2006 DVD shows a very happy, actually very funny even hilarious Woolly introducing the band and other funny comments during the show. His referring to The Who in a very positive sense was priceless. I madly laughed aloud ! And then such a crazy funny guy took his life, maybe a few weeks later, I heard many years afterwards. Devastating news. Stuart Wolstenholme is the Man of the Mighty Mellotron, because he never abandoned it with BJH. A pioneer second to none. RIP Woolly and thanks for your beautiful music, the very finest from BJH
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The.Crimson.King
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 29 2013 Location: WA Status: Offline Points: 4596 |
Posted: March 16 2016 at 14:27 |
Well said. My 1st reaction to Greg's words was about the same as yours. Truth be told, he says he was aware of Keith's decline beginning in 1977, but none of us know for sure if he ever tried to reach out and help Keith and how that might have played out, but his quotes do seem...well...cold. I'm afraid Greg comes off like those who look down on people suffering with depression and are content to stand by and watch them drown rather than taking the initiative and offering a helping hand. Another sad chapter to this story.
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