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Polymorphia
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Posted: December 28 2015 at 16:19 |
Good prog is good because all the elements make for a good listening experience as a whole. The difference between prog and other genres are just the elements themselves. There's enough variation in prog (at least according to PA) that I couldn't describe any appeal that's universal to all prog, except for aforementioned variation. Many of the best prog albums make for very unique and varied experiences.
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akaBona
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Posted: December 28 2015 at 17:02 |
prog music is one of those things what make life worth living. it makes me feel better!
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HackettFan
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Posted: December 28 2015 at 19:53 |
I love how it has some sounds actually originate from Mars. I love how it has singers of these ageless times with kitchen prose and gutter rhymes. I love how it provides unexpected twists and turns. I love 5/4, 7/4, 5/8, 7/8, 9/8, 11/8, polyrhythms, nested polyrhythms. I love how women fawn over it. I love barbecue ribs. I digress.
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JJLehto
Prog Reviewer
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Posted: December 28 2015 at 20:09 |
The stuff that makes it good?
I find it fascinating because of its diversity and well...progressiveness! Guess I'm just weird....I was never into music, just found it boring and uninteresting. Even if I liked something, it just got generic and samey. So I find prog not boring because it actually does different things! The song structures, the different influences, the many many directions it can go. You never really know what a prog (insert sub genre) album will be like, where it'll take you, sometimes you get swept off your feet in awe and surprise.
This, for me, doesn't happen with non prog music.
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HackettFan
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Posted: December 28 2015 at 20:16 |
I love how I can take Gentle Giant albums, like Giant For a Day, and cut out a giant mask to wear for Halloween parties.
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miamiscot
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Posted: December 29 2015 at 18:07 |
Prog is thinking man's (and woman's) music. When music is allowed to just "be" and not feel the constraints of run time or audience (and label) expectations, the results are often thrilling. Great art is never boring.
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emigre80
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Posted: December 29 2015 at 21:19 |
miamiscot wrote:
Prog is thinking man's (and woman's) music. When music is allowed to just "be" and not feel the constraints of run time or audience (and label) expectations, the results are often thrilling. Great art is never boring. |
I do like participants who recognize that women listen to prog. Also the comment is spot-on.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: December 29 2015 at 22:03 |
I have to say I do dislike the intellectual superiority that sometimes comes off prog fans (me included). I like to think it's got more to do with the intensity of focused listening and the personal tastes that need more complexity and variation.
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Ian
Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com
https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/
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emigre80
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Posted: December 29 2015 at 22:13 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I have to say I do dislike the intellectual superiority that sometimes comes off prog fans (me included). I like to think it's got more to do with the intensity of focused listening and the personal tastes that need more complexity and variation. |
Or maybe just the fact that we know that we are so much smarter than the average music fan.
Edited by emigre80 - December 29 2015 at 22:13
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omphaloskepsis
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Posted: December 30 2015 at 08:07 |
Good Prog creates new neural connections in my brain. Takes my mind to places I've never been. And since Prog is more complicated then pop, I hear new things in the best prog that I've never heard before, even if I've listened to the music 50 times before. Feels like awe. Outstanding Prog is like a drug.
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micky
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Posted: January 01 2016 at 07:59 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I have to say I do dislike the intellectual superiority that sometimes comes off prog fans (me included). I like to think it's got more to do with the intensity of focused listening and the personal tastes that need more complexity and variation. |
though I can't say I dislike it per se. it is one thing as I posted earlier that keeps prog from getting boring.. the fans of it. Never a dull moment when you get a bunch of people that think they are more evolved and superior to others all gathered in the same room.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 01 2016 at 18:00 |
It would be better (at least for me) to listen to prog and porg mutually sometimes.
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
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Posted: January 02 2016 at 06:10 |
the musical experimentation
Edited by Slartibartfast - January 02 2016 at 06:11
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Rando
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Posted: January 02 2016 at 19:44 |
It started when I was a kid when I first listened to The Beatles 'Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart's Club Band' that led the path to the greatest rock music in the universe; Prog! - Rock music that was intelligent, diverse, and perhaps at times pretentious, but never dull or boring.
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- Music is Life, that's why our hearts have beats -
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Komandant Shamal
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Posted: January 03 2016 at 00:11 |
^^ The Mothers of Invention's "Freak Out!" was already in a "freak'''s music collection when "Sgt.Pepper" was released ie. Prog was already born at the time when "Sgt.Peppers" was released. yes, the Beatles were very influential re that English Symphonic rock scene in late 60s / early 70s.
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prog, as a music made by "freaks" for "freaks", cant be boring ie. it must be a pitoresque place!
Edited by Komandant Shamal - January 03 2016 at 02:31
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sublime220
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Posted: January 03 2016 at 23:24 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
I have to say I do dislike the intellectual superiority that sometimes comes off prog fans (me included). I like to think it's got more to do with the intensity of focused listening and the personal tastes that need more complexity and variation. |
ACTUAL CONVERSATION I HAD: Me: Nice Genesis shirt Guy:(without giving me any time to respond while he was talking) Ha, you like all those [bleep] songs right?Abacab and all that [bleep]? Yeah well wait till you get into the Peter Gabriel days and-OH WAIT! You don't even know him and even if you did, it was from the piece of [bleep] Sledgehammer song. Yeah you have [bleep] taste. Don't even talk to me. Me: *happily walks away because I avoided that storm*
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 04 2016 at 00:42 |
^ Ah yes; the Pompous Progger. Worse than the Hostile Punk or Volatile Headbanger any day.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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uduwudu
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Posted: January 04 2016 at 02:03 |
Most music genres exist because they cannot do what another can. Nor should they. Who would want, say, an ACDC album to sound like the Goldberg variations? Oh wait. That's porg.
Prog.
Yes. ;)
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Tapfret
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Joined: August 12 2007
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Posted: January 14 2016 at 04:55 |
The amazing marketing and media saturation. Also, the chicks!
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
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Posted: January 14 2016 at 22:20 |
The non-boring people I meet online and become friends with... But what he ^ said, baby.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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