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Originally posted by TeleStrat TeleStrat wrote:

^  People making general statements like "a murderous police force", insinuating that most cops are bad, is also troubling. 
You can't possibly believe that.
Oh of course. 

Not all policemen are murderous ego maniacs with a need for control who want to dominate and abuse others but protected by the law. 

But all murderous ego maniacs with a need for control who want to dominate and abuse others but protected by the law are policemen. 
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Protect and serve. They protect each other and serve a corrupt judicial system. Not all policemen are bad but enough of them are which is very troubling.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Big news today in the footie world is the sacking of "The Special One", Jose from Chelski. An absolute certainty, given the depths to which they have fallen this season.

Funnily enough, I have been in London this week with work, and the accountant I was dealing with has family connections with Chelsea. He said that the rot started with the treatment of the nice female doctor who Jose took exception to earlier this season. Basically, the story is that two high profile players were having, ahem, Ugandan discussions with said doctor, and Jose was not happy about it, and created the issue which led to her leaving. Said players were, understandably, not happy, and this all led to him losing the dressing room.

Of such things are major news stories made!.

Ah well. Up the Arsenal.

Aha! Truth shows up, finally! When a coach loses a room, it becomes obvious on the pitch (Hey, Louis!) , the players are demotivated to apply maximum effort bc they know they can rid themselves of a coach. What is 'Ugandan' discussions? Never heard that term on this side of the pond . And which two players , I am curious? ....
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Big news today in the footie world is the sacking of "The Special One", Jose from Chelski. An absolute certainty, given the depths to which they have fallen this season.

Funnily enough, I have been in London this week with work, and the accountant I was dealing with has family connections with Chelsea. He said that the rot started with the treatment of the nice female doctor who Jose took exception to earlier this season. Basically, the story is that two high profile players were having, ahem, Ugandan discussions with said doctor, and Jose was not happy about it, and created the issue which led to her leaving. Said players were, understandably, not happy, and this all led to him losing the dressing room.

Of such things are major news stories made!.

Ah well. Up the Arsenal.


Aha! Truth shows up, finally! When a coach loses a room, it becomes obvious on the pitch (Hey, Louis!) , the players are demotivated to apply maximum effort bc they know they can rid themselves of a coach. What is 'Ugandan' discussions? Never heard that term on this side of the pond . And which two players , I am curious? ....


Ugandan discussions are, like, horizontal press ups, like, rumpy pumpy, like, oh, damned good sex. It is an old phrase coined by Private Eye, the British satirical magazine, many years ago.

As to the players, I rather think that it would be libellous to name them.
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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:


With that said, if I'm to speak about his rap sheet I really don't care about just about any of those crimes. I hesitate to call them crimes in anything except the most narrow sense.
I would expect nothing less from a libertarian such as yourself. But how mutable are such nonchalant values when it's your wife who is assaulted, your property destroyed, your car stolen or your son or daughter dead of an overdose at the hands of just such a career criminal who long ago past the bounds of the three strikes law?
 
And for the record I have said that if a crime was committed, there should be a prosecution; however, based on much of the testimony I've read, Officer Porter's actions really didn't amount to the crimes he was charged with. For instance, the entire idea of seat-belting criminals became a policy only six days before the incident, and not all the officers were given the policy information (that is negligence on the department's part). Based on Porter's testimony, through his career he had put over 150 criminals in the back of paddy wagons previously without any seat belts. Truthfully, in every crime scene or riot I've ever viewed on TV news reports, I've never seen anyone buckled in the back of a van, have you?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Equality 7-2521 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2015 at 20:56
For the record you said that, but yet you still felt the need to laboriously list all of Gray's crimes. This is a bit odd if you had no point to make.

And now you say a bunch of other irrelevant things to me to start this post.
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Big news today in the footie world is the sacking of "The Special One", Jose from Chelski. An absolute certainty, given the depths to which they have fallen this season.

Funnily enough, I have been in London this week with work, and the accountant I was dealing with has family connections with Chelsea. He said that the rot started with the treatment of the nice female doctor who Jose took exception to earlier this season. Basically, the story is that two high profile players were having, ahem, Ugandan discussions with said doctor, and Jose was not happy about it, and created the issue which led to her leaving. Said players were, understandably, not happy, and this all led to him losing the dressing room.

Of such things are major news stories made!.

Ah well. Up the Arsenal.


Aha! Truth shows up, finally! When a coach loses a room, it becomes obvious on the pitch (Hey, Louis!) , the players are demotivated to apply maximum effort bc they know they can rid themselves of a coach. What is 'Ugandan' discussions? Never heard that term on this side of the pond . And which two players , I am curious? ....


Ugandan discussions are, like, horizontal press ups, like, rumpy pumpy, like, oh, damned good sex. It is an old phrase coined by Private Eye, the British satirical magazine, many years ago.

As to the players, I rather think that it would be libellous to name them.

I figured such was the case , and yes PA can get into trouble by naming the two rumpy pumpists! LOL
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200 civilians killed in Syria with Russian airstrikes.

This is so sick and senseless. And the Russian Minister of Defense says that the reports contain "fake information". ... Really? Why would Amnesty Intl lie? What was so fake about it? That those strikes didn't happen? That it was all just photoshopped? That it wasn't Russia that did the strikes? That it was all Ronald McDonald's work?

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Intentionally bombing hospitals, if true, is cowardly.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sean Trane Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2015 at 13:17
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Intentionally bombing hospitals, if true, is cowardly.


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Edited by Sean Trane - December 23 2015 at 13:18
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Putting a fancy catchphrase on it still boils down to cowardice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 23 2015 at 15:42
far be it to defend the russians here.. but having Amnesty International speak about military targets and their validity is as silly as having the Russian military speak of hospitals and women's prenatal care LOL

sure they are waging their own agenda there. Different from the west's.  Targeting civilians makes as much as sense for them as it has for us  in the past. None.  It is part of the tragedy of war, the innocent die.  Not because they were targeted but were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.  A tragedy for sure.. but that is war for you. It leaves many victims. Dead, wounded and mentally scared.

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^ Wrong place, wrong time. Does that mean the missiles were deviated by Wanda Maximoff to hit those people? Collateral damage or not, you still have to be more than an idiot to give an order to strike an area full of innocent people and  not to take responsibility for that.

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As micky points out, that is nothing very different from what America did in Afghanistan and Iraq.  Practically dismembered both countries in the name of collateral damage.  Pardon me, but weren't both Dubya and Blair re-elected for their grand crusades on Islam, oops, sorry, terrorism?  As an outsider, I find this hand wringing pointless and futile.  Once these big powers decide to start the music, there's nothing the rest of the world can do but watch.  All these organisations and trade bodies suddenly and miraculously become powerless.  Less so in the case of Russia but Uncle Sam may do exactly as he pleases.
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^ Great. So, no matter whom we elect, the people that come out on top turn out to be warmongering a-holes?

P.S. Oh, yes, that's right: then there's this whole "conspiracy theory" (in double quotes or not, I'm not sure) about tampering with the voting numbers.


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War is a sick twisted evil game, Assad regime is not the only one to blame here. The Western Media has twisted this ridiculously to their advantage/benefit.
Assad succeeded his father as authoritarian leader of Syria in 2000. He responded to peaceful Arab Spring protesters in 2011 with a crackdown so brutal that it sparked an armed revolt that still rages.

Then came an invasion by the Islamic State, which Assad considers one of many "terrorists" arrayed against him.

Formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq, the Islamic State is infamous for videotaped beheadings, mass murder and systematic rape of captive women - and now, inspiring or possibly directing attacks in the West. Syria's chaotic war opened the way for the Islamic State to expand across the border in 2013. IS has seized about a third of Syria, and has placed its capital in the northern Syrian city of Raqqa.

Isis are Sunis backed by Saudi Arabia and Turkey, the world speaks bad about Shias but somehow those who blow themselves up among innocent people are Suni's not Shia's! People wake up commo!, this is about politics and money!
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


200 civilians killed in Syria with Russian airstrikes.

This is so sick and senseless. And the Russian Minister of Defense says that the reports contain "fake information". ... Really? Why would Amnesty Intl lie? What was so fake about it? That those strikes didn't happen? That it was all just photoshopped? That it wasn't Russia that did the strikes? That it was all Ronald McDonald's work?

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no proof whatsoever but there was against the opposition must go get that now brb meanwhile here you go:
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:


200 civilians killed in Syria with Russian airstrikes.

This is so sick and senseless. And the Russian Minister of Defense says that the reports contain "fake information". ... Really? Why would Amnesty Intl lie? What was so fake about it? That those strikes didn't happen? That it was all just photoshopped? That it wasn't Russia that did the strikes? That it was all Ronald McDonald's work?

M "Pa-ra-pa-pa-pa-a-a-a, I'm bombin' it!" M
 
no proof whatsoever but there was against the opposition must go get that now brb meanwhile here you go:
 
Syrian rebels used Sarin nerve gas, not Assad’s regime: U.N. official
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote micky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2015 at 07:08
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Wrong place, wrong time. Does that mean the missiles were deviated by Wanda Maximoff to hit those people? Collateral damage or not, you still have to be more than an idiot to give an order to strike an area full of innocent people and  not to take responsibility for that.


war is the ultimate exercise in idiocy man. LOL Terrorizing citizens and hitting non-miltary targets is nothing new nor is dodging responsibility for it. 




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^ You are missing my point. When something like this happens, somebody has to do something. Impeachment and sanctions are nothing new either. How much number do we have to get?

Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 24 2015 at 08:46
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