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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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"The Giants have lost four times this season when holding a lead in the final minute of the fourth quarter. According to Elias, that's tied for the most such losses since the merger."
That's a pretty amazing stat right there. Another NFL record set, the Lions set the record for the longest hail mary given up in the final seconds to lose a game. |
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rushfan4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66588 |
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I'm surprised that the Lions don't hold the most losses when holding a lead in the final minute of the 4th quarter record...but then again that would mean having the lead and most games that isn't an issue.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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Yes...the4 giants defense is truly bad, especially when it counts. I don't have statistics to back this up, but it seems like 80% of 3rd downs in the second half (especially the 4th quarter) get completed against them. No pass rush, no coverage, limited tackling (though I do think their tackling has improved from last year). Sadly, the offense on it's best day is pretty good. I believe in Eli and OBJ is a star (Harris is also a lifesaver...especially with CRuz's absence and on special teams), but the o-line is poor (and with flowers potentially out even worse) and they can barely fall forward when trying to run the ball. This is why the winner of this horrid division will be lucky to be 7-9.
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Will the Broncos make it?
Two weeks ago I would ad said no way, but today, it's possible.
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AEProgman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2012 Location: Toadstool Status: Offline Points: 1789 |
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^ With that defense Denver has and manageable play from QB as of late, they have a pretty good shot at it. Question will be, when Manning gets "healthy", who will start?
Steelers offense looked great against the Colts, defense did ok. Still don't trust the defense, Seattle torched them for a shoot out last Sunday. Our lost against the Chiefs is hurting wild card hunt at the moment and the early field goal kicker woes that aided in a game or two lost. We play Bengals next, need a win. NFC east, wow! Who would believe Dallas is only 1 game out of division lead
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Dallas is unbelievable. But their division sucks. What a vibrant ending yesterday.
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Metalmarsh89 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
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That'd be cool if this Bengals-Steelers game was played in prime time. Except for the Thursday night matchup between the Vikings and Cardinals, it might be the game of the week. |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Yup, I haven't looked into the veracity of this but it sounds very right to me: I saw something saying the Giants would be 10-2 instead of 5-7 if games were 75 seconds shorter. Insane. Really makes you realize just how bad they're collapses have been! Many of those games they of course had leads they could've built on to put teams away, but have been slowly crumbling instead, resulting in these last minute choke jobs. That said, it's near universally accepted this is the end of Tom Coughlin. Barring a true miracle, I mean blowing 2011 out of the water, I expect 8-8 at best. Hell, if said miracle happened....Coughlin should just retire while "on top"! With all the rumors about Sean Peyton leaving New Orleans........ I never wanted Coughlin gone becuase I felt no one was good enough a replacement, (except Jim Harbaugh) BUT if we were to lure Peyton over... Edited by JJLehto - December 09 2015 at 19:19 |
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timothy leary ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
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Go Hawks! Nice win against the Ravens. The Hawks own December. Love seeing Denver losing.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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With Dalton out and the broncos fumbling, can anyone win the AFC other than the Pats? The obvious answer to me is the Steelers...but as of now they aren't even in the playoffs.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Online Points: 21330 |
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Chiefs have an easy run in so it should be down to the Steelers & Jets. I'd probably give the Steelers the better chance of getting in, their offense is a juggernaut.
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MillsLayne ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2010 Location: East Bay, CA Status: Offline Points: 2504 |
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As much as I'd rather see the Jets get in, I trust the Steelers more to pull it off. |
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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True. The Jets won't be able to handle NE methinks. Hopefully the broncos can find some semblance of offense and power up the defense for this weeks game in Pitt.
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Giants game went largely as expected: Very poor defense from both sides, but unlike New Orleans the Giants could maybe win a shootout against Miami. Though I figured it would be uglier than necessary and that was certainly true. I can't say we had any defensive stops...it was more Miami's failing.
Typical story: Defense and O line: College level Eli and Beckham: keeps us on life support ![]() Eli was at his best today, looking to throw the ball forward, over the middle, and hitting bombs. 87% complete, and there were very few dink passes, epic. Overall, I'm glad McAdoo has run the offense at a quicker pace, and simplified the ridiculous Gilbride system, and has less "throw it up and hope" plays but while it's cut down on mistakes and picks I feel it's robbed Eli of this balls, especially with so many deep passes right on the sidelines... Today is more proof he needs to be allowed to just throw. Basically today was the perfect blend: Quick and efficient, but no dink and dunk sh*t. |
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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The Steelers are the AFC version of the Seahawks. The (possible) wild card team that no one wants to play. |
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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Truth. I imagine they will make it in, but admittedly I forgot about them as they are currently outside (for some reason) looking in.
Edited by Man With Hat - December 15 2015 at 19:08 |
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rdtprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams Joined: April 04 2009 Location: Mtl, QC Status: Offline Points: 5403 |
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The Steelers could be a tough team for the offense, but they have some big holes to fill in their pass defense. They give a lot of big plays. They don't have the team to beat New England even a banged- up team. |
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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I think with Dalton gone and the Pats injuries the AFC is breaking to have the Steelers win the conference. |
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AEProgman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2012 Location: Toadstool Status: Offline Points: 1789 |
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^ ^^
The Steeler defense makes me nervous. As mentioned above they give up way too many big pass plays on defense. Ben also has a tendency to throw a pick in every game which other teams in it. A non-trusting cautious fan... ![]() Even after Dalton went down, the back up QB did not do a bad job and did keep them in it somewhat, but did make a few critical mistakes. I think the Bengals have enough talent for them to win the division with their remaining schedule (49ers, Broncos, Ravens) They win 2 out of 3. Steelers look like they have the best shot at the last wild card, we play Broncos, Ravens, and Browns. Earlier loss to the Ravens has hurt the playoff hunt. Chiefs seem to have the easiest road, but the last game against the Raiders could be interesting. Oddly, they play the Ravens and Browns before that. Jets have a tougher remaining schedule, the banged up Cowboys and Patriots (just heard Blount is now out for the season, wow more injuries), then the Bills. Looks like it will go down to the last game....grab some beer and peanuts and kick back!
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