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octopus-4 
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Posted: December 01 2015 at 14:26 |
I've just seen a review giving 1 star to one of my 5 stars albums. It's a legitimate opinion and I don't pretend to be right. I'd just like to start an "appreciation" or "disappreciation" thread about Wishbone Ash's Argus.
What does people think is good or bad in that?
This is my review. Surely not a great one, just to start the discussion if anybody is interested.
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RayRo
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Posted: December 01 2015 at 14:36 |
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I'm more of an old school heavy metal fan as opposed to a prog fan, but this album is a killer along with the WA's first two albums.
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dr wu23
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Posted: December 01 2015 at 14:43 |
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Well...I like the first 3 the most and Argus the best of those. IMHo they never again achieved that blend of prog blues and rock like Argus.
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AEProgman
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Posted: December 01 2015 at 15:30 |
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Saw that review as well. This was one of my favorite albums back in those days and I still listen to it from time to time along with the first two. Argus always had a concept feel to it, at least to me, or the track order went well into each other.
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GKR
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Posted: December 01 2015 at 15:56 |
Wishbone Ash was one of those bands I hear in the transition between Heavy Metal to progressive rock... it has a special place in my heart and I also give 5 stars to it. 
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cstack3
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Posted: December 01 2015 at 17:39 |
 GKR wrote:
Wishbone Ash was one of those bands I hear in the transition between Heavy Metal to progressive rock... it has a special place in my heart and I also give 5 stars to it.
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AlanB
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Posted: December 02 2015 at 02:50 |
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My all time favourite album by ANY band. I like most of the Wishbone Ash albums up to 1980, but they never made anything else as great as this one.
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Intruder
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Posted: December 02 2015 at 07:19 |
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I like the Ash when they're jamming, especially side 2 of the first album. Argus is a groovy record - again, great jamming, but I hate it when they sing....and those lyrics - oy!
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Posted: December 03 2015 at 03:52 |
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My favorite WA album.
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presdoug
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Posted: December 03 2015 at 08:46 |
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With Argus is the proof that there was magic in the air in those days; a very, very special record that the band has never equaled since. The atmosphere and vibe are unique and endearing!
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addictedtoprog
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Posted: December 03 2015 at 09:25 |
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Argus is a Masterpiece.
Haven't heard anything else from them.
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Jeffro
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Posted: December 03 2015 at 11:57 |
Argus is great, as are the first two albums. Haven't been able to really get into anything from Wishbone Ash after Argus.
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Mascodagama
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Posted: December 04 2015 at 01:10 |
addictedtoprog wrote:
Argus is a Masterpiece.
Haven't heard anything else from them. |
You could waste a lot of time looking for similar gems in the rest of their catalogue. There aren't any. Having said that the live albums Live Dates and Live Dates II are very nice, and the first two studio albums also have some excellent parts and are at least worth investigating.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2015 at 01:59 |
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I couldn't believe it when I saw the 1 star rating / review that appeared on the front page that day - still find it difficult to fathom.
Argus is superb - still obsessing over the debut though, and Pilgrimage.
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AlanB
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Posted: December 04 2015 at 02:43 |
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The biggest mystery to me is why Argus never appears in any of those "1000 albums you need to hear before you die" type books.
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Cristi
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Posted: December 04 2015 at 03:26 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
I couldn't believe it when I saw the 1 star rating / review that appeared on the front page that day - still find it difficult to fathom.
Argus is superb - still obsessing over the debut though, and Pilgrimage. |
the debut is my favorite from them 
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 04 2015 at 03:33 |
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dr prog
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Posted: December 08 2015 at 02:38 |
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It's ok. Pretty straight forward though
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uduwudu
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Posted: December 24 2015 at 03:58 |
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A 1 star review of Argus. Well that has a novelty value in and of itself I suppose. Clearly not listened to Sometime World and that killer bass riff in it. The only negative thing I can say about Argus is that the 2 expanded versions really needed to be just one.
Yep, the first two, Argus and Live Dates as well for that double live album completion backwards principle sake of it.
Argus. 1 star. Hahahahahahaha. Try as hard as you can, come up with a stone classic and someone says... well whatever next?
P.S. It was NOT an opinion i.e. I like versus dislike which is; but is a judgement or assessment / evaluation and requires evidence. Thus it's ok to call someone on this sort of thing. Especially when they get the two concepts mixed up.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: January 01 2016 at 18:47 |
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Not quite Argus, but I spun There's The Rub yesterday and it's a bloody excellent album start to finish. Easy 4 star - No Smoke Without Fire is close in quality.
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