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202,000 signatures!!!!! That's about 70,000 in the last 2 hours! 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107516

Just about passed the other "Stop Immigration" Petition that was featured heavily in the UK media.
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People will support cannibalism if frightened enough. Fear is never a good motivator for legislation.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

People will support cannibalism if frightened enough. Fear is never a good motivator for legislation.
Who doesn't enjoy a bit of finger food as an appetizer?
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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IS is the problem, not immigration, which is quite elemental for mankind



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French Police Appeasement - Muslims can kill but you're not allowed to protest until next Thursday! I thought child grooming protecting Rotherham Police were bad!!! 
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

People will support cannibalism if frightened enough. Fear is never a good motivator for legislation.
Who doesn't enjoy a bit of finger food as an appetizer?
There are parts of the human body that are far more edible than the fingers Tongue
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IS is the problem, not immigration, which is quite elemental for mankind


Sadly the free movement of people is making invasion simple for ISIS. Most cultures are compatible and closing borders comes at a compromise but Islam is struggling to integrate. 
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

People will support cannibalism if frightened enough. Fear is never a good motivator for legislation.
Who doesn't enjoy a bit of finger food as an appetizer?
There are parts of the human body that are far more edible than the fingers Tongue
 
A rump roast, perhaps?
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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A filet du derriere sounds like a much protein-rich option. 
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Originally posted by Matthew _Gill Matthew _Gill wrote:

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IS is the problem, not immigration, which is quite elemental for mankind


Sadly the free movement of people is making invasion simple for ISIS. Most cultures are compatible and closing borders comes at a compromise but Islam is struggling to integrate. 


cancelling free movement is deeply regressive (we already had that in Germany concerning GDR) and mixing up IS and Islam doesn't make it easier ...


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Closing borders would be bad for the business.

If we ate each other alive we'd need less genetically modifier foods.
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Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Matthew _Gill Matthew _Gill wrote:

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IS is the problem, not immigration, which is quite elemental for mankind


Sadly the free movement of people is making invasion simple for ISIS. Most cultures are compatible and closing borders comes at a compromise but Islam is struggling to integrate. 


cancelling free movement is deeply regressive (we already had that in Germany concerning GDR) and mixing up IS and Islam doesn't make it easier ...


TBH Islam is struggling to integrate with European cultures in general, to stop just Islamic immigration is very controversial. The UK has seen many migrants recently from the Eastern Bloc but they certainly aren't dominating the headlines for terrorism, female genital mutilation or child grooming offences. Some Brits fear the Polish may take our jobs but they certainly don't fear them.
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Bloody hell, 233,000 signatures, it seems to be getting signed 10 times per second. Pretty significant occurrence imo. 
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People will support cannibalism if frightened enough. Fear is never a good motivator for legislation.
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Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 16:50
While I certainly understand the want and need for stricter controls and monitoring of borders/entry...why stop immigration itself? Why "close" the borders? 
Seems perhaps an A: over reaction based off knee jerk or B: a belief that maybe was already wanted and now given "justification"?


We in the Western World are proud of our civilization, our way of life, so it's when times are toughest we need to uphold them. So we can't proceed with anger, and we can't just give up what it is that makes the "civilization" that so many are saying is now being warred with. 
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From a Canadian perspective, our government want bring 25,000 refugees per year... They will pay food, loan a shelter, give them money etc...

Over terrorism issues, this will cost us a ton of money, most don't speak our languages, their conception of the world is diametrically different (religion doesn't really exist where I live... And I like it that way!) and common feeling is that it's gonna end up in ghettoisation.

I'd like to help, but not necessarily welcome them, terrorism is just one aspect... It's highly unfair for poor people who pay taxes since they are born and homeless people who will spent night outside at -35 Celsius  during the winter.
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 17:33
^Well said Brian. The "let's get all Muslims out" thing is not a consequence. The real idea is "NOW this gives me justification to say what I always wanted which is let's get the Muslims out". 
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Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2015 at 17:39
Obviously an exaggeration to bring light to the point, but as a fan of history (and I've seen many agree/echo similar sentiments) there is an oddly 1920/s30s feel not just in Europe but all over the world, certainly here in the US. 

Hope we choose to act together and not resort to isolationism and forever cyclical warfare (never the intent of course) 
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