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Matthew _Gill ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2012 Location: Wakefield Status: Offline Points: 347 |
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There's been 5,000 signatures in the last 5 minutes so it is being treated as a serious concern.
R.I.P. all those in Paris who sadly lost their lives in the latest Islamist terrorist attack on Western society.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Brought to you by the UK friends of Le Pen and the UK reborn version of the NSDAP
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Horizons ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 20 2011 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 16952 |
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"Until ISIS is defeated"
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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RayRo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 02 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 171 |
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Which probably means that UK's borders will be closed while ISIS bombs the UK from the inside. Wrong said Fred.
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Michael678 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2013 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2466 |
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makes sense in their crazy mindset
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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There are probably legal reasons why we can't do that. Also IS won't be defeated. There power may be reduced by they are an ideology that will not die out. It is worrying though, as one of the Paris attackers was apparently a Syrian 'refugee' who travelled through Greece back in October. I expect there's more to come. The Guardian Edited by Blacksword - November 14 2015 at 11:59 |
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Matthew _Gill ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 07 2012 Location: Wakefield Status: Offline Points: 347 |
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It'd would mean serious negotiations with the EU, they basically govern us regarding Human Rights and the free movement of people. Unfortunately despite what self-enlightenment seeking Liberals say Extremists/Terrorists/Islamists are arriving with economic migrants (and the odd genuine family) en masse. |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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It's not about being enlightened or liberal or anything. Do you really think is possible to "close all borders"? (Well, maybe a tad easier in the UK since it's an island). Do you really think that most of the refugees are terrorists? (Or even many of them)? Don't you think terrorists will already be there and be citizens?
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Also, you said that "islamists" are among those arriving. Are all Muslims terrorists?
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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IS stated back in September that they would exploit the refugee stream to get more Jihadists into Europe. I suspect that not many will come but so far we knowonly of thismone and he was part of the biggest terror attack in Europe since the Madrid bombings, so there clearly is some risk. |
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*frinspar* ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2008 Location: Arizona Status: Offline Points: 463 |
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Xenophobia isn't the answer.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13229 |
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It is a very difficult proposition, weighing the humane concern for refugees against the need for security. Free movement across borders as advocated by the EU is both a boon for commerce and a bane for maintaining order and self-determination. The issue is particularly stark in France where jihadists (many naturalized or natural-born citizens of the country) trek back and forth from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, train in combat, and arrive in Paris with impunity, ready to spread mayhem.
And there is no Charles Martel to drive back the Moors, because there is no horde at the gate.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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It's not the Moors. It's the Moops
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13229 |
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It is getting to the point among growing nationalist parties in EU countries that the words of Arnaud Amalric, allegedy stated during the massacre of Albigenses by French nobility at Béziers, may well be spoken again: "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius." (Kill them all, let God sort them out.) |
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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Vompatti ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 22 2005 Location: elsewhere Status: Offline Points: 67452 |
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Maybe if we were less racist, these poor oppressed souls wouldn't feel the need to rape and kill everything that moves.
![]() Incidentally, aren't ISIS simply mercenaries working for the US? If they're so Islamist, why haven't they ever attacked Israel? |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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1. It's not as easy to attack Israel as it seems. 2. The enemies are those states who support And gave birth to Israel first. 3. This is not a case about race I think. Only religion and politics.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13229 |
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I certainly hope you're being facetious.
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
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A Person ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 10 2008 Location: __ Status: Offline Points: 65760 |
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I definitely have no inclination to sign anything like that. Immigrants are fleeing the same people perpetrating terrorist acts like that. It's far too xenophobic for my liking, especially with language like "Islamist attacks". This sort of thinking worries me, it will only lead to Muslim people becoming more isolated, and when they are faced with persecution for simply being who they are it will only serve to fuel their radicalization. Moreover, ISIS isn't the kind of entity you can just defeat.
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lazland ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13795 |
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So do I. If he is not, then this is one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen, which is saying something by recent standards ![]() |
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